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#189718 - 2008-09-17 02:53 PM Windows Update on XP Home
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4572 Loc: USA	Hey Guys, hoping someone may have run into this, and/or can provide a link that I can't seem to find. Windows XP HOME I would like to setup some home pcs with non-admin accounts. One of the problems with that is Windows Update does not run. Under XP Home there is no gpedit.msc either to possibly allow it to run. I figure there has to be a registry key somewhere that would allow this, since you can force it with XP Pro. Anyone with experience getting this to work? _________________________ (... better days ahead)
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#189723 - 2008-09-17 04:56 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Allen]
Mart Mart KiX Supporter Registered: 2002-03-27 Posts: 4673 Loc: The Netherlands	Regular Windows update should work just fine afaik. There are some registry settings you can use to configure AU. Configure Automatic Updates in a Non–Active Directory Environment Edited by Mart (2008-09-18 09:22 AM) Edit Reason: D#mn typos. _________________________ Mart - Chuck Norris once sold ebay to ebay on ebay.
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#189728 - 2008-09-18 07:07 AM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Mart]
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4572 Loc: USA	Thanks for the link. I'll see how it goes. _________________________ (... better days ahead)
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#189753 - 2008-09-19 01:38 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Allen]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	Allen, The WUSLib library on my site has a couple of functions you might find helpful. Specifically, WuGetConfig() and WuSetConfig(), which get/set the the Windows Update Service parameters. I avoid HE like the plague, so can't tell you if it will work there, but it's worth a shot. Glenn _________________________ Actually I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#189764 - 2008-09-19 06:10 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Glenn Barnas]
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Yeah, this whole thing about so many different versions I think helped to make the Vista push a failure as well. Just make them all Pro versions when they make an OS and be done with it. I know there are reasons for it but I think those reasons back fired on them. Have you manually set one and watched it NOT work ? I know that the SP3 will not install automatically on it's own as I've set the WU to do all updates automatically and it is now sitting there waiting for me to install it for my workstations and won't do it for my users (who are not Admins), but it does do all the other updates on it's own.
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#189800 - 2008-09-22 08:39 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: NTDOC]
Arend_ Arend_ MM club member Registered: 2005-01-17 Posts: 1896 Loc: Hilversum, The Netherlands	This should help you: http://www.wsus.info/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t8361.html
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#189801 - 2008-09-22 09:06 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Arend_]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	Yup - those are the registry values that you can get/set with my UDF library.. Glenn _________________________ Actually I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#189810 - 2008-09-23 09:33 AM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Glenn Barnas]
Arend_ Arend_ MM club member Registered: 2005-01-17 Posts: 1896 Loc: Hilversum, The Netherlands	Sorry Glenn, as (very) good your UDF's are, I'm not much of a fan of the U in UDF's $;\)$ They are very handy when you need a quick solution, but I personally prefer finding out stuff myself (reinventing the wheel, helps me learn better then using other ppl's code) This is why I mostly suggest the means to find out instead of pointing towards the UDF.
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#189819 - 2008-09-23 02:21 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Arend_]
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4572 Loc: USA	I ended up running out of time on the PC I was working on, and never got to test this. I will run into this again though. The thing I wanted to test, and the thing I noticed in most of these docs is they all refer to using SUS, not AU from MS. @Apronk, hang around and keep making your suggestions. Those of us who have been around here for a while, know exactly where you are coming from... Or you can visit my website and get the UDF I wrote to sum all this up. $;\)$ Wow.. just noticed you have almost 1k posts... that seems really quick. I guess I'm getting old like Shawn, and can't keep up. $;\)$ _________________________ (... better days ahead)
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#189820 - 2008-09-23 03:25 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Arend_]
Glenn Barnas Glenn Barnas KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-01-28 Posts: 4402 Loc: New Jersey	Arend, I'm a big fan of teaching people to fish, rather than feeding them.. $;\)$ I just knew that Allen had the capacity to take the fish, fillet it, and turn it into a meal to suit his tastes. $\:D$ While the WUSlib is available in my Kix resources page, a rather complete package, with the UDF library, sample code, and documentation is available as well as a package. That has lots of good info and examples related to WSUS, not just the UDFs. The library exposes the entire WU API, which many people aren't aware of. That isn't to say that I didn't get some (more) ideas from the article you referenced. Glenn _________________________ Actually I am a Rocket Scientist! $\:D$
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#189837 - 2008-09-24 02:30 AM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Glenn Barnas]
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	just a side note. are you guys really getting all updates automatically? at least at the time of the windows authentication package update, it automatic updates used to hang there. I still see regularly systems that have quite old updates not installing just because there is one update that requires user clicking first. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#189894 - 2008-09-26 10:12 AM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Lonkero]
Arend_ Arend_ MM club member Registered: 2005-01-17 Posts: 1896 Loc: Hilversum, The Netherlands	@Allen: if you don't specify the WSUS server url it'll default to MS. @Glenn: Thats true, I forgot the post was from Allen, beginning users would just use the UDF rather then looking how it works. @Lonk: yeah the WSUS client sometimes (rarely) f*cks up, mostly installing the Windows Update Agent 3.0 fixes these issue's. It should be deployed automatically but with most SP3 PC's it doesn't always for some reason.
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#189910 - 2008-09-27 01:19 AM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: Arend_]
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11634 Loc: Space	Only update I see around here on my systems that won't update on it's own is SP3
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#189912 - 2008-09-27 05:51 AM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: NTDOC]
Benny69 Benny69 Moderator Registered: 2003-10-29 Posts: 1036 Loc: Lincoln, Ne	As a side note: you guys prolly already know this but i discovered this week that with XP SP3, XP RDP /console changed to match Vista RDP /admin _________________________ Wait don't order yet,... get KiXforms Designer .NET 2.0 (Beta) KiXforms Designer .NET 2.0 (Beta)
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#189919 - 2008-09-28 07:50 PM Re: Windows Update on XP Home [Re: NTDOC]
Mart Mart KiX Supporter Registered: 2002-03-27 Posts: 4673 Loc: The Netherlands	Time to start making new images with SP3 included _________________________ Mart - Chuck Norris once sold ebay to ebay on ebay.
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