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#98745 - 2003-02-26 08:07 PM Re: New moderator for UDF
Jack Lothian Offline
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I agree DOC is great & jpol is great too, we should find a way to make this work. If we wish to move to 3 moderators in some forums, maybe Bryce might also like to put his name forward? (Richard is also an obvious but he does't have the time or do you Richard - with 3 moderators maybe?)

MCA,

About the poll. Like Les, I am not sure this is the most effective strategy. (And yes, I know that the last to recruitments sort of used polls.) First, we don't get a mass of volunteers & second the total number of votes tends to be 15 or less & the winners often win by a vote. Also, we run into the possiblity of someone winning in more than one forum. I think that our moderator pool is getting big enough that maybe we might leave it to the moderators to choose. Maybe modertors should nominate candidates & only they vote. I think this is pretty close to what is happening anyway.

[ 26. February 2003, 20:26: Message edited by: Jack Lothian ]
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#98746 - 2003-02-26 09:07 PM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Hmmm... Jack may be close to the truth.

MCA How many members have posted 25 or more posts in the past 30 days?

I think most of us already know who are regulars. With nearly 7,000 members, I bet there are 20 or less that actually ACTIVELY particpate on almost a daily basis.

I'm agreeable to just about any method you guys want to use, but I'll throw in my 2 cents as well.

I nominate
Radimus, NTDOC, and Jochen, to become new or continuing MODERATORs for the UDF Forum.

If anyone else wants to Moderate as well, please reply here and say so. There are plenty of other good candidates, but either here or via MSN I've heard many say they don't want to Moderate the UDF Forum.

Otherwise if we don't here from you, we can assume that:

1. You're on vacation and missed this posting.
2. You don't want to be a Moderator
3. You're too busy to Moderate
4. You're too shy to nominate yourself
5. You don't really care one way or another
6. You're not a daily actively participating member, so you probably don't have time to Moderate the Forum.
7. You don't like the choices, but your a silent observer.
8. You've moved on to another site or job positon and don't visit here anymore or rarely.
9. Only you know why you're not posting yourself as a nominee.
10. KORG rocks and you're happy no matter who Moderates the UDF Forum.

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#98747 - 2003-02-27 02:46 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear,

What interesting conclusion we see about different timezone moderation.
In some situations it can be very handy, but for the more quiet forums
it isn't really necessary to have three moderators. Not necessary when
a quick reaction isn't directly necessary.
For the UDF forum it is a special situation and for the FAQ forum the
possible problems with chaos on it doesn't exist.
Possible other forums for a three moderator are in our opinion "starters"
and "scripts" forums.

It isn't the goal to remove other moderators from forums. The goal
with the idea about a three one was "UDF forum may require a quick
firm moderation".

NTDOC, see our BB Top25 part I page to get an
impression about the amount of posts. Mostly the 25th members doesn't
posted 25 or more posts in one month. For the information of February
you must wait for this weekend.

who should mail us

Everybody can send me a mail. Everybody who has interest to become a
moderator.

Also people of our TOP25 list who doesn't want to be moderator can
mail us of course.

For people missing this discussion. No problem: in the future this
request will return on the board.

For people who have the intention of becoming a moderator in the
future may mail also. Of course we know that the condition about
available time or your position may change.

For people who think "I am not a good moderator, because others
make the suggestion 'I should be active on a daily base'" it is
a problem to nomination himself. Not all moderators are active on
a daily base. We are very sure about that. Oh, what can it be
lonely on the kixtart community during weekends.

greetings.

btw: we think that the only wish by other moderators is that you as
moderator inform other moderators about you wish to go into retire-
ment.

[ 27. February 2003, 03:09: Message edited by: MCA ]
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#98748 - 2003-02-27 02:57 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
Radimus Moderator Offline
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have you noticed something about the MM Club...

code:
 
Lonkero 20010605 Moderator 2306 46-5 6816 6607 20010605 20030131 Jooel_Nieminen@hotmail.com
Shawn 19990817 Moderator 173 51-5 4512 4451 19990818 20030131 stassie@sympatico.ca
LLigetfa 20010611 Moderator 2346 40-5 4499 4363 20010611 20030130 les_ligetfalvy@hotmail.com
MCA 20000428 Moderator 732 36-5 4175 4105 20000428 20030130 scripting@wanadoo.nl
sealeopard 19991030 Moderator 336 47-5 4005 3981 20010425 20030131 sealeopard@usa.net
Howard Bullock 20011006 Moderator 3386 26-5 2695 2527 20000915 20030131 hbullock@tycoelectronics.com
kdyer 20010103 Moderator 1559 24-5 2310 2301 20010103 20030131 dyerkb@myrealbox.com
jpols 20000314 Member 611 24-4 2286 2268 20000317 20030131 jochen.polster@gmx.net
NTDOC 20000728 Moderator 926 31-5 2189 2174 20000728 20030130 ntdoc@kixhelp.com
Radimus 20000329 Moderator 661 34-4 2096 2075 20000329 20030131 radimus@wheelerfam.com
Bryce 20000309 Member 600 20-5 1912 1900 20000309 20030131 bryce@isorg.net


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#98749 - 2003-02-27 03:07 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
MCA Offline
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Dear Radimus,

This list doesn't directly show what the history of a poster is.
Also only two MM-guys aren't at the moment moderator.
The additional information on that "BB Statistics - BB MM-Club" page
shows how regular a MM-poster can be.
greetings.
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#98750 - 2003-02-27 03:11 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Sorry NTDOC,

The link wasn't working. Now it works correct.
greetings.
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#98751 - 2003-03-01 03:59 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear,

Please don't forget to mail. Closing time wednesday 5th March 2003.
greetings.
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#98752 - 2003-03-02 12:11 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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or just say in this thread that you are volunteering to Moderate.
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#98753 - 2003-03-02 12:21 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear Lonkero,

Someone must collect the interest for members to become a moderator.
At the moment we have receive only a few. People may also put their nomination to this
topic.

When ther are no trouble with three moderators for UDF forum we suggest Henri to extend
that list with the new moderators.
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#98754 - 2003-03-02 12:22 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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MCA, sure.
but it has to be discussed somewhere anyway...
if there is more volunteers than there is seats.

hehee, I'm volunteering for all forums [Big Grin]
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#98755 - 2003-03-02 12:30 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear Lonkero,

First we need some guys for the UDFs and it must become clear who have interest
to become moderator. Of course it is possible that at the same moment on so-
me other forums seats come available.
Available
- after moving to another forum as moderator
- by upgrading to a crew of three persons.
greetings.
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#98756 - 2003-03-02 12:33 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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We already have our volunteer for the UDF forum, NTDOC. It has been clearly expressed in this thread that he is the best candidate for the job, so I don't understand why you are wasting your and other's time in this exercise.
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#98757 - 2003-03-02 12:39 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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we currently have also JPOLS and RICHARD...

but these must be discussed in correct manner.
I don't mind about the mail thingie MCA is showing.
my volunteering some time ago (which led to selecting) was also trough mail.

but I think, the process and all what it leads to should be discussed with current mods.
as henri is not answering our mails, that is the only way to keep some sort of order in the house.
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#98758 - 2003-03-02 04:11 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear Lonkero,

Of course we will do first some house-keeping with f.e. current moderators. Only
one post after finishing our discussion to Henri must be enough.
After wednesday 5 March 2003 we will send the complete list around. It contains
already more names then you are mention.
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#98759 - 2003-03-02 04:29 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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now that is good!
almost sweet [Big Grin]
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#98760 - 2003-03-02 04:32 PM Re: New moderator for UDF
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If you review this thread, I'm sure you would draw the same conclusion that I did one week ago. That being... NTDOC is the best candidate and JPOLS volunteered as 3rd moderator.

There was no talk of email surveys or closing times or any such thing. As I held the opinion that the time for discussion had concluded, I emailed Henri, requesting that the change take place. I see that Henri has now done so and thank him for that.

On that note, I would like to welcome JPOLS as our newest moderator. I would also like to thank NTDOC and JPOLS for their dedication to this board.

Now that this has been settled, we need to get on with the task of clearly defining the guidelines for posting in the UDF forum. I propose that this be done in a new thread and have started one for that purpose.

Topic: Discussion of guidelines and moderator role in UDF forum
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#98761 - 2003-03-02 05:29 PM Re: New moderator for UDF
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BTW... I do agree that we should have 3 moderators for most (if not all) the forums.

if Les (for example) found himself in the middle of an internet blackout in the wilderness of Canada then a number of forums would be out half of their moderator staff. The same would apply to Doc and Lonk...

I propose that we apply RAID 5 to our moderator staff for the other forums also... and perhaps limit the number of forums 1 member can moderate. I think 2 would be sufficient. Moderators of FAQ would be an exception to this as it is limited in traffic and doesn't need as much babysitting.

Geographic diversity of moderators would also be of value to the users of this board
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#98762 - 2003-03-03 06:17 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear Lonkero,

We were very surprised, when on a silent moment the moderator status was changing.
It is in our opinion not very fairly. Members on the board was told, that they
overthink their dedication as moderator. This morning they will see, that their
feedback becomes meaningless.

As moderators we should always be fair against our members. We must do the things we are promissing.

Because the discussion about a third moderator for some forums is still open
members still can nominate him- or herself as a moderator.

Please send us a mail when we are interesting in a moderator-ship. Please inform
us also for which forum you a preference has.
The date of closing for nomination is still Wednesday 5 March 2003.

greetings.

btw: why restart a whole discussion about guidelines for UDF forum. Please Les can
you tell what elements in your opinion needs a refreshment.
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#98763 - 2003-03-03 06:25 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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Dear jpols & NTDOC,

Very good luck with moderation of UDF forum.
greetings.
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#98764 - 2003-03-03 08:11 AM Re: New moderator for UDF
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I made it ?

Oh yeah, Member Status : Moderator [Smile]

Well, thanks for the confidence and I'll do my very best.
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