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#97997 - 2002-11-30 07:08 PM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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I know that this has been mentioned before, can we get > 8.3 file names?

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#97998 - 2002-11-30 10:49 PM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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me asks this too.
not remember anymore did it work with spaced paths either but...
and don't know is it just packaged script or real exe.
anyway, it's not com so this should not be hard to implement.
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#97999 - 2002-11-30 11:06 PM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Kent, Lonkero,

It is a request from other members too. With the current compiler it isn't possi-
ble to bypass the required 8.3 format. Without changing from compiler we will
return another solution for this problem.
greetings.

(our reaction 3700 to the board)
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#98000 - 2002-11-30 11:17 PM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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so, could someone else compile it for you? [Wink]
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#98001 - 2002-11-30 11:38 PM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Lonkero,

Compiling isn't a problem for us at all, but to solve the 8.3-format limitation we
need to translate it to another programming language.
The performance of the current compiler during processing your script can't touch
by other languages. We think that more accurate feedback about your script syntax
how a much higher priority for the kixtart community at this moment. An exam-
ple of such issue is "parameter-counting in kixtart functions".

greetings.
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#98002 - 2002-11-30 11:58 PM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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decided to get the kixstrip and test.
running without switches worked (wrong warnings though)

running with:
C:\>kixstrip410.exe test.txt testout.txt /show_errors

test.txt being:
quote:
$val="
1. me
2. you
3. he
"
$val

and got:
quote:

;Warning KIXSTRIP: 1, 5 line incomplete "double quotation".
;Warning KIXSTRIP: 1, 5 line incompleted.

so, we come back to the fact that kixstrip is not as free in syntax as kix is.

sure, it reduces the code need a lot to assume things to be on one line but, after combine of the script it will do totally different output in current example.
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#98003 - 2002-12-01 12:05 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Lonkero,

It doesn't return the wrong warnings.
First we are talking about possible problems. Secondly the documentation describes
some restrictions.
Third we describe in the documentation the way of by-pass such warnings.
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#98004 - 2002-12-01 07:37 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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What are you using for a compiler? (If I may ask?)

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#98005 - 2002-12-01 08:22 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear,

A combination of Turbo Pascal and Turbo Assembler.
greetings.
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#98006 - 2003-01-20 02:06 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear,

Version kixstrip420.exe is compliant with KiXtart 2001 - 4.20 release candidate 1 (build 123).
Only keyword table is different with the other kixstrip releases.
Now available by

Summary of Site
&
Home - Kix Tools
&
Home - Kix downloads

pages.
greetings.
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#98007 - 2003-01-23 12:13 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Do not see any verion 4.12 of KIX412UPDATE.EXE or KIX412REGISTRY.EXE on your site..

Thanks,

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#98008 - 2003-01-23 01:43 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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kent, they are there...
have to search for a while:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/scripting/index-kix-downloads.htm
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#98009 - 2003-01-23 02:20 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Kent,

The summary of site link summary.htm contains all downloads.
Only the structure has been changed a little bit. We have try to create more structure within in
and make it more readable.

Based on feedback we have split our home page. The kix download page link shows related files
for specific kixtart version. So we will prevent question like "why can't I find kixstrip412.exe file".
greetings.

btw: thanks, lonkero

[ 23. January 2003, 03:47: Message edited by: MCA ]
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#98010 - 2003-01-23 09:59 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Have you thought about using a search facility on your site? If you don't want to code one, here is an option - http://www.picosearch.com .

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#98011 - 2003-01-25 03:28 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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again, MCA it is nice you got those things separated...
but.

having a section named kixtools with IExpress at top????
and then comes ico???

as those have nothing to do with kix-tools.
some re-thinking could be in place.

anyway, the idea is good.
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#98012 - 2003-01-25 04:22 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Kent,

It is an old question. First we will finish most our things on the TO-DO
list.

Currently we are still busy to make our 'kixtart.org' statistics reprodu-
cible, which handle new names and moved topics in a correct way.
Also page creation should be done automatically.

For your interest
- an extraction of 'kixtart.org' site handles nearly 500 MB.
- processing those data in different ways cost nearly 1 hour now.
greetings.
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#98013 - 2003-01-25 04:25 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Lonkero,

Of course "Iexpress.exe" doesn't have something to deal with kixtart,
but during a redesign we shouldn't put all those stuff directly on
the right location.
After the implementation of "search" engine and "site map" page. It can
be a big problem anymore.
greetings.
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#98014 - 2003-01-25 04:29 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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yeah.

like I said... the idea is good.

waiting it to be done fully. now it just is a mess.
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#98015 - 2003-01-25 04:38 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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Dear Lonkero,

Do you like more the old format of "home" page?
The only differences between previous one is we split it.
The summary page contains the old structure. It is the page Ruud is referencing too.

When other guys think it is also a mess we like to hear that. Any suggestion is
welcome.
greetings.
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#98016 - 2003-01-25 04:43 AM Re: KIX-TOOL: stripping, reformatting, debugging, performance analyze kix code (kixstrip)
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just the grouping is mess [Wink]

I would go more like:
-kix scripts (pure scripts)
-kix tools (tools like kixstrip)
-other tools (like iexpress)

to refer the KISS method [Smile]

it is still not done with treeview so it might be hard...

also the stats are going harder to see as the layout is getting fuzzy.

anyway, the idea is good. just finishing and minor cleaning up could be in place...
we will see. as you said, it's not ready yet.
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