A short reaction.

After reading all the comment we had some remarks about it:

• the board should not only for UDF's but also for scripts. Sometimes
  code should run also on a previously kixtart release, which can be
  an UDF.
  
• published UDF's must be related to member name. Possible reactions will
  inform the member (= creator of UDF).
  The contents of topics and reactions should not be influence by a moderator.
  A writter doesn't like that other persons are rewritting his book.
  Very restrictive way of publishing UDF's can stop the great amount of
  creativity of members. Many other (mostly commercial) sites are very
  restrictive in the way of using. Just a piece of freedom makes this
  board great.
  Of course it will not mean that no guidelines must be created. Specially
  the title of a topic is very important.
  Everybody must be aware that the guidelines doesn't give him a nasty fright
  in publishing a very nice UDF (idea). We saw some very nice and also very
  small UDF's on the forums, which doesn't need any comment at all. A good
  name for an UDF is also very important. And of course this forum should
  only contain scripts. Members will find there own way.
  
• A possible suggestion about removing information from the board
  isn't such a good idea. Also replacing them.
  Why?
  - sometimes links will be used to those topics.
  - what is the definition of obsolete? mostly we are thinking about "it is not
  running on all windows versions". we must realize that microsoft and other com-
  panies are publishing a great amount of new releases of there software which
  influence many scripts on this board.
  it will be an utopia that members will always upgrading their scripts. UDF's
  and scripts can be used and can give also ideas. It can inspire readers.
  Suggestions:
  - the moderator will standardize the topic-title. On the other forums a lot
  of titles doesn't reflect the contents of those topics.
  - the moderator doesn't only publish an accurate guideline document, but
  also a list of published topics which can be extracted from the topic-list.
  
• we like Bryce's suggestions about
  - variable usage: This way the internal workingsof UDF can not interfere with
  the calling script, no matter what variable names were used..
  it is very normal for programmers to do so.
  - store scripts in plain text. possible a location on the kixtart.org can used
  for that, but it would be nice that some other sites can be a backup for it.
  possible that all scripts can put in one ZIP file for downloading.
  
• the idea of Richard Howarth about promote it to the UDF forum
  we doesn't like at all.
  With this suggestion a member doesn't have any freedom at all. By implemen-
  tation of this for us the http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart site has
  more freedom and capabilities. Freedom: not so restrictive. Capabilities: you
  can vote on script, which may incorporated in kixtart itself and as creator you
  can see "how usefull your script is". The latest build shows the effects of vo-
  ting capabilities.
  See also next items for "why".
  
• the remark of Richard Howarth about he (moderator) can check the standards
  have been adhered can result in unexpected results.
  we think first at issues like:
  - presentation of commands, functions, macros and variables. f.e. commands must be
  lowercase, functions may not presented like 'GetFileAttr' but should be 'getfileattr',
  macros must be uppercase and variables must start with a letter.
  - the indentation usage
  - it isn't possible to put 'print'-statements in it. also no debugging code.
  - the variables aren't the wanted ones.
  question: what is the freedom of script creator which only want to share
  some code/idea with the kixtart population.
  
• the idea that members can't influence topics on this forum we doesn't
  like. It can be very frustating that you get a script without the knowledge
  what reactions were and are made on it, also it can very frustating for the
  creator of a script which can put an one-liner (f.e. a new version will release
  soon or a minor.major problem will be fixed) to his script topic.
  

Some questions:

• what to do with good (old) scripts on the other forums?
  
• how handles the moderator by an OPEN forum, when a simply
  kixtart question is put on it? inform sender and remove or close it?
  
• what happens with a CLOSE forum, when f.e. the moderator is on
  vacation or doesn't have the time anymore? Possible that Martijn
  can use an email address like scripts@kixtart.org.
  
• what to do with copyrights? publishing scripts by moderator suggest
  kixtart.org has the rights on it.
  for us all scripts are freeware and all copyrights belongs to creator
  of script.
  
• what are the benefits when we are introducing a CLOSE forum instead
  of using the function library on the http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart
  site?
  what disadvantages you are thinking of by a very restrictive forum
  for putting UDFs on?
  

btw: Martijn and other members don't think we are against the forum, but
we doesn't like extremly regulation of using it.

WE MUST REMEMBER "everything on this board is VOLUNTEER WORK"

Don't give members a nasty fright in publishing a very nice UDF (idea).

[ 16 November 2001: Message edited by: MCA ]