Rod,
Don't be a sour puss. Ron didn't hijaak your post, he respected your request and started his own thread.
I think HN is a good thing and not because of my place of birth. Alas, I think it has little chance of broad acceptance. I would hazard a guess that most KiX programmers (if I can even call them that) come from a non-programming background and are mostly self-taught with maybe some batch or BASIC background. A lot of them are SAD (SysAmin by Decree) meaning they were thrust into it.
They have not been taught structure and their bad habits are now stuck with them. Have you ever tried to get someone to touch type after they did 'hunt and peck' for years?
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