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#93852 - 2002-10-01 12:10 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	I already deleted the keys: no cure (or is it ?) The keys are automatically generated at startup, so no damage has ocurred. Nevertheless i will continue to search for a solution. [ 30. September 2002, 12:13: Message edited by: Schuliebug ] _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93853 - 2002-10-01 12:18 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	shculie. do you have the small icons enabled? if yes, disable them and check the key I showed. I can't understand how it could not be there as it's same system. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#93854 - 2002-09-30 01:20 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Fernando Madruga Fernando Madruga Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-08-21 Posts: 149 Loc: Coimbra.Portugal.Europe.Earth....	Sorry! Don't know why, but I got the impression you were using XP... If I get some time later, I'll try and look it up here. _________________________ Later, [b]Mad[/b]ruga
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#93855 - 2002-09-30 01:51 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	Fernando, I'm running with XP, but that's only my workstation. The company clients are running W2K Pro SP3... _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93856 - 2002-10-01 01:49 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Fernando Madruga Fernando Madruga Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-08-21 Posts: 149 Loc: Coimbra.Portugal.Europe.Earth....	As promised, I did some digging. After installing a virtual Win2K Pro SP2, I've used RegMon to find the changes. Oddly enough, I noticed a value that looks like it should do it, but also some "weird" keys being changed! So I looked in the web and this is what I found: Explorer Spy. Being a curious kind of guy, I've delved a bit deeper and found that one of the UIDs that was part of one of the changed keys was the one for ActiveDesktop!! That is: {75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9} = CLSID_ActiveDesktop... These are the changed keys using either SetValue or CreateKey: code: HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\IntelliMenus HKCU\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\Windows\CURRENTVERSION\Explorer\UserAssist\{75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9}\Count\HRZR_EHAJZPZQ HKCU\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\Windows\CURRENTVERSION\Explorer\UserAssist\{75048700-EF1F-11D0-9888-006097DEACF9}\Count\HRZR_EHAJZPZQ:0k1,n065 Still doing some more research to try and get to a working piece of code to change it (much more fun than what I had to do... I'll get back when I have that answer. Meanwhile, don't forget to have a look at the link above: it's VERY interesting!! _________________________ Later, [b]Mad[/b]ruga
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#93857 - 2002-10-01 01:55 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	hey madDude, once you get it done, you can check also what is the outcome after you install ie6. if it still holds, next difference in my laptop is that it has autoupdate scheduled everyday... so, either one might affect on that key thing... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#93858 - 2002-10-01 09:50 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	Extra info: we're not using active desktop for the users. i will have a look at Fernando's suggestions... _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93859 - 2002-10-02 02:45 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	Fernando's suggestion no work too Don't have time now. but will look into it tomorrow again. _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93860 - 2002-10-02 03:00 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	do you have what ie version installed? _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#93861 - 2002-10-02 03:37 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	IE 5.5 SP2 (however, i don't think this will help - please proove me be wrong ) _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93862 - 2002-10-02 04:34 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	schulie, I'm just looking for the reason why you don't have that key. as all machines I've tried has it when small icons are not enabled... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#93863 - 2002-10-02 04:37 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	Ok Lonkero, i know you'r really trying to help! It's just that we already spent so much time with no results, it's depressing ! _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93864 - 2002-10-02 04:42 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	mm... it does not need to be... do you need this in hurry? could spent some more time to catch the place... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#93865 - 2002-10-03 11:21 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	Just that it would be nice to have, no show-stopper (we're rolling out W2K Pro clients in a few weeks, we just want everything as we like it) You're help would be much appreciated! (as of anyone of cource!) _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93866 - 2002-10-03 01:12 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Dunc Dunc Getting the hang of it Registered: 2002-05-25 Posts: 54 Loc: Guildford England	Schuliebug, If you are going to use an image to roll out your w2k machine, you could set this setting as part of the defaul user. This is what I have done. I also had the same prob looking for the setting. Spent ages looking for both "show small icons" and also "Auto Arrange" for the desktop. Don't know if you could do this as part of a unattended setup ? Duncan
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#93867 - 2002-10-03 07:48 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Fernando Madruga Fernando Madruga Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2002-08-21 Posts: 149 Loc: Coimbra.Portugal.Europe.Earth....	I've taken some time to look at this problem and these are my findings so far: There's an undocumented function in module SHELL32.DLL that is exported by number only (no function name); it's #42 and according to some very rare places it's named IntelliMenus and should be the responsible for changing that setting... Haven't had the time to find some decent freeware API spy tools to check it out, and the tools I had no longer work with current OSes like Win2K (haven't done Reverse Engineering for quite some time)... Will come back, maybe later. [ 03. October 2002, 19:48: Message edited by: Fernando Madruga ] _________________________ Later, [b]Mad[/b]ruga
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#93868 - 2002-10-03 08:08 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Very nice ... so there is some magic to this after all ... now I'm wondering that if the function is exported by ordinal - whether RUNDLL32 could be used or not ...
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#93869 - 2002-10-03 10:13 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Schuliebug Schuliebug Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2002-01-18 Posts: 379 Loc: Netherlands	Shawn, propably rundll32 could be used, or maybe a call to the shell object, like: code: $Tray=CreateObject("Shell.Application") $RC=$Tray.TrayProperties This just opens the property screen of the taskbar, but when using the undocumented call Fernando found we could do the trick ?? But shouldn't you be coding KiXforms version 2.1 ??? Dunc: no, no images but handsoff installations via a master disk and the source on the network. We have to many different HW platforms to support to use image technology Fernando: when using filemon we saw the key IntelliMenus edited, so it could do what we're looking for !!!! Great man [ 03. October 2002, 22:19: Message edited by: Schuliebug ] _________________________ Kind regards,
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#93870 - 2002-10-03 10:30 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Don't think RUNDLL supports ordinals, plus - I think they aren't the same across all os versions ... Here's some light bedtime reading though ... my head hurts ... The Shell Icon Cache [Helps if I post the link] [ 03. October 2002, 22:32: Message edited by: Shawn ]
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#93871 - 2002-10-03 10:42 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Just changed this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics\Shell Icon Size = 16 and got some really small icons happening all over the place here [yikes] - was this key already mentioned ? [WinXP by the way] [ 03. October 2002, 22:52: Message edited by: Shawn ]
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