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#93872 - 2002-10-04 12:54 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
Fernando Madruga Offline
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Schulie: I started with regmon and found that IntelliMenus key, which I thought would do the trick. Tried and got nothing out of it. Then I noticed those two other "weird" keys that I posted earlier, wich are ROT13'ed (odd thing for explorer to do!). After some (too much!) internet searches for newer tools (as I mentioned, my "old days" hacking tools are way outdated and no longer operating on anything above WinNT4), I came to my previous conclusions.

As for the rundll32, it's only useful if the function were exported by name... [Frown] {edit} And it also would have to conform to a given parameter list (that's why these RUNDLL thingies work so well!) {/edit}

I've been away from my PC for some hours now, and just returned. Will do some more digging and post the results later. There's no such thing as the computer/OS/program/whatever taking the best of me! We (humans) will unite and claim victory! [Big Grin]

[ 04. October 2002, 00:56: Message edited by: Fernando Madruga ]
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#93873 - 2002-10-07 08:55 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Guys, thanks for the effort, really !! It's really great to know you all are looking for a solution [Smile]

I have done some research too, haven't found anything yet. However, i'm still convinced it should be possible, cause other tools can do it too !!
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#93874 - 2002-10-07 02:47 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Well Jan - not sure if your interested in this option or not - but I could always whip you up a tiny-little .exe program that will call on this exported ordinal make the change that way - kinda like a command-line vesion of TweakUI (does TweakUI already have command line switches?)
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#93875 - 2002-10-07 03:53 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Shawn, if you could do that we would be very happy !! Maybe a command line tool with the two options small and large (and if you do have too much time) maybe also the other options AutoHide, AlwaysOnTop and others [Wink] [Wink] [Wink]

Don't know if TweakUI do have command line options..

[ 07. October 2002, 15:54: Message edited by: Schuliebug ]
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#93876 - 2002-10-10 04:29 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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No news yet? I've changed our installation to use a generated default ntuser.dat.. That way it works [Frown]
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#93877 - 2002-10-10 04:42 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Jan - sorry for not giving an update - I went to code something up and realized that is no information on how to call this ordinal (#42) ... went searching on the web and couldn't find anything - without this info not much anybody can do.
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#93878 - 2002-10-11 09:42 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Well there is something I can do...

Bryce helped me to work out the modifying of the registry, and I wrote up and tested all the other coding.

Take a look here.
ModifyStartMenu

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#93879 - 2002-10-11 09:44 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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I knew it is possible.
still no magic.

thanks doc.
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#93880 - 2002-10-11 09:46 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Hey SHAWN... Where is that Wine Cooler you promised me?

See, and you doubted I could do it [Roll Eyes]

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#93881 - 2002-10-11 10:25 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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doc,
first of all, you should probably go to bed...

anyway, I ment your action:
quote:

ACTION Modifies the Start Menu and Taskbar options

it does not set the taskbar size or the side and those can be adjusted by the same reg-value as you may see from taskbar()
 

[ 11. October 2002, 10:43: Message edited by: Lonkero ]
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#93882 - 2002-10-11 03:33 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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NTDoc, looks great but have to test it if it can be used by a normal user (no admin rights, the function kills explorer)
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#93883 - 2002-10-11 08:08 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Lonkero

Ah... yes not many options of the taskbar, but it does AUTO HIDE the taskbar, and that is the name of the command on the Start Menu... so I put in that verbage. Not that anyone will really read it, but hey... looks like at least you did. [Wink]

Thanks guy

[ 11. October 2002, 20:46: Message edited by: NTDOC ]

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#93884 - 2002-10-11 08:12 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Sorry Jan,

I can't work miracles [Frown]

I got the code to work when no one else could figure it out.

I have not tested it as a non Admin, but you may be able to use a policy to set these values as well. Then it would not need to kill explorer.

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#93885 - 2002-10-12 12:10 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Patrick Rutten

Did it work for you?

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#93886 - 2002-10-12 11:02 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Doc,

Xp pro as admin works...

Xp pro as limited user works too...

Win95 unable to test at home.
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#93887 - 2002-10-12 11:13 PM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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win9x as unauthorized user works (should regarding to testing before) similarly with nt4.

well, with win9x there is no need to restart explorer, just tell to shell that it has to reload settings.

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like this:
shell "RunDLL32.EXE SHELL32.DLL,SHExitWindowsEx -1"

reference:
http://www.dx21.com/SCRIPTING/RUNDLL32/ViewItem.ASP?NTI=4&SI=6&OID=16

[ 12. October 2002, 23:19: Message edited by: Lonkero ]
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#93888 - 2003-05-13 12:33 AM Re: Switching start menu size to 'show small icons'
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Please see this topic if you want another task that is probably quite similar.

No scriptable solution provided yet that I could find. So if anyone wants a challenge, I guess this one is still open.

http://www.kixtart.org/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007154

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