Basically Yes Conrad,

hmmm ... what do you try to do ? An Autorouter, Street Map ? Navigation System (to visualize tragets in Iraq ? [Eek!] )

Ok, for the technical side :

Try to make the complete form a .PictureBox (no, create the form and then create a PictureBox of the same or smaller size)

Add all Graphics you need then to $PictureBox.Line() etc ...

J.
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