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#87824 - 2002-09-13 08:16 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Hi Jooel,

To answer your much earlier question [Wink] I have been using dual titles like ...

Button Control & Method
CommandButton Control & Method

... since day one as there are lots of properties to which it can be applied e.g. CursorX/CursorY, MouseX/MouseY etc. etc.

BTW this weekend I will be looking at making the website 'ToolTips' far more explanatory in that you will be able to hover the mouse over any link on the Documentation page and a window will popup containing similar information to that in Shawn's quick lookup list. Hopefully this will help the KiXforms newbies out while you, me and Chris (and others) flesh out the pages underneath.

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#87825 - 2002-09-13 08:33 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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hey, thanks for reminding me of one question.

shawn, how can we have multiline tooltips?
also, is it possible to have tooltip shown just once?
I don't see it nice that user has tooltip in listbox everytime he stops moving the mouse.
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#87826 - 2002-09-13 08:40 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Ben - yeah - i see the problem - think i know what it is and will check it out tonight.

But just a comment though ... even though one can keep toggling the SORTED property on and off (except for this bug you have identified) - its really wasn't designed for that purpose. One should only have to set the sorted property once - when the control is first created. Like you might try here:

code:
$lstGroups1			= $fraDetails.ListBox
$lstGroups1.HEIGHT		= 134
$lstGroups1.LEFT		= $USR_LBLLEFT
$lstGroups1.TOP			= $lblGroups1.TOP + 20
$lstGroups1.WIDTH		= 220
$lstGroups1.Enabled		= 0
$lstGroups1.Sorted		= 1 ; <---
then just CLEAR and re-populate the list as required. It will always remain sorted as long as this property is set. The didn't really design the sort property to be a sort method ... just thought it would be usefull that if one "converted" an already populated listbox to sorted ... that it would automatically sort the items contained within it. But once that initial sort is done - no need to reset the property after that ... one can start a fresh list by using the CLEAR method (which you have already done) then carryon ...
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#87827 - 2002-09-13 08:52 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Very good. I'll move that property to the initial definition of the list. Makes better sense anyway.

Thanks,
Ben
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#87828 - 2002-09-13 09:07 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Yeah - but its still a bug though ... thanks for spotting that.
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#87829 - 2002-09-14 04:19 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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How come put these options here?

code:
;
; Initialize our options ..
;

;$RedOption.Value = TRUE
;$OneOption.TabGroup = TRUE
Why not add them when the Options are created? I changed it and it still works.
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#87830 - 2002-09-14 06:06 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Shawn,
Thanks for updating Kixforms and implementing the Sorted property, but I think there may be a problem. When I use sorted with listbox I lose the scroll bar that was by default on the right side of the listbox. When I comment out the sorted property the scroll bar returns. Hope I'm not jumping to any conclusions here.

Thanks
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#87831 - 2002-09-14 06:15 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Hi Vig ... your not seeing things ... This was identified yesterday to do with another problem that Ben identified ... Im going to be issuing a new release today (hope Rod is around to catch it) ... heres the revision list so far ... just trying to think of anything else I can squeeze in today:

code:
	- Improved task switching behavior. Form now restores
	  keyboard focus back to previous control when task 
	  switching between forms and other windows applications.
 
 	- Added OnKeyDown Event. Occurs when a user presses 
	  a key while the object has the focus.
 
	- Added KeyCode Property. Gets the key code associated
	  with the key that caused the OnKeyDown Event. 
 
	- Fixed Sorted and List property memory leak.
 
	- Fixed automatic vertical and horizontal scroll bars
	  for ListBox and ComboBox object.


[ 14. September 2002, 18:18: Message edited by: Shawn ]
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#87832 - 2002-09-14 06:26 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Oops, sorry for bringing it up again.
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#87833 - 2002-09-14 06:28 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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eh - no problem man - actually, I think it was Kent that spotted that problem.
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#87834 - 2002-09-14 06:43 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Hi Shawn,

Yep, no worries, I'm on-line. Send through 2.0.5 when you are ready and I will post a.s.a.p.

Rod.
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#87835 - 2002-09-14 08:10 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Shawn, I notice that the SpecialEffect property (and several others properties that were not actually implemented) have disappeared in 2.0.4 compared to 2.0.3. Is this intentional?

Regards,

Rod.
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#87836 - 2002-09-14 08:18 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Yeah ... anything that was experimental or obsolete was purged from the interface in 2.0.5 - unfortunately, we can't have an unlimited number of properties and methods in a single interface ... so I just trying to clean house.

Im adding another very cool feature (imho) to Kixforms as we speak ... wonder if we should just go ahead with 2.0.5 now - and there will probably be another tomorrow - what you think ?

-Shawn
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#87837 - 2002-09-14 08:25 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Errmm, if you are at a good break point to release 2.0.5 then let's go for it, otherwise if you are in full flow on something good then leave it until tomorrow. I will clean up the Documentation page and remove all the experimental (TBD) entries. BTW can you stop coming up with new properties that begin with the letters A, B or C, it's a real PITA to move all the table entries along by just one cell [Big Grin]

Rod.
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#87838 - 2002-09-14 08:26 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Actually Rod - your right about the Special Effect property - I moved this functionality into the BorderStyle border ... but the SpecialEffect property might be coming back in a future release ... Guess its best just to leave it out for now.
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#87839 - 2002-09-14 08:27 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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so...

have you decided already about the listbox?
if you are going to change it in 2.0.5, post it now, so can change the checker...
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#87840 - 2002-09-14 08:46 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Think i will wait until tomorrow ... theres no rush and rushing things has gotten me into trouble before (ie, having to reverse things later on) ...

Jooel ... im going to defer the AddItem thingy until LISTVIEW support ...
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#87841 - 2002-09-14 09:49 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Already said more on this BB than i remember: Shawn great new stuff! I immidiate have a look at this version and the new functions [Smile]
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#87842 - 2002-09-14 09:52 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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Jan .. check it out but wait for tomorrow until 2.0.5 is released ... 2.0.4 has some issues.
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#87843 - 2002-09-14 10:03 PM Re: KiXforms 2.0.4 Released
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I also read that... Also experiences loosing scrollbars with the latest version. Will wait till the next release with implementing it. Nevertheless i will look at the syntax of the new functions. I also have a question about a script i wrote: it seems not to get the focus when started with wkix32, but with kix32 it does ?
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