shawn, yes they come trough but I need my loop to sleep.
that's why I need separate looping of doevents.

on the old builds when the event-design was different this kind sleepy was lots easier to produce...

anyway, I think this is somekind windows thingy.
It looks for apps that are not responding or something. it sends some control stuff or then just refresh to all open windows.
have you code for those thingies if they even exists?

cheers,
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