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#79708 - 2003-05-15 04:28 PM 4.21 *final* is now available
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From Ruud:

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The final build of KiXtart 2001 4.21 is now available.

4.21 is a minor update including the following fixes and enhancements:

- GPF in FormatNumber if value stripped to zero digits
- COM automation exception handling
- MOVE of a single file or directory did not reset @ERROR
- Recursive COPY/MOVE/DEL with drive in source did not operate on sub-directories
- COPY to non-existing directory
- @PRIV now returns 'ADMIN' if running in system context
- Debugging of UDF's
- GPF in SET on Windows 95 with USB Supplement installed (Windows 95 build 1212)
- Ascan now returns -1 if the Start parameter is out of bounds
- Enhanced Ingroup to trim spaces from the input group name(s)

I have also updated the manual slightly, in particular the description of the COPY and MOVE commands.

--Ruud

Currently available from http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart

-Brian

PS. Look for the updates to both the CHM (Compiled HTML Help) and online language reference within a day or two.

http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/htmlhelp/

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#79709 - 2003-05-15 04:31 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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I already wondered where your post is [Big Grin]
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#79710 - 2003-05-15 04:47 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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GPF in SET on Windows 95 with USB Supplement installed (Windows 95 build 1212)

- thats a weird one.

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#79711 - 2003-05-15 05:01 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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quote:

Shawn:
GPF in SET on Windows 95 with USB Supplement installed (Windows 95 build 1212)

- thats a weird one.

Indeed it was. This issue really torked us for a while. If you had this one very specific build of 95 and attempted to set an environment variable, KiX would just terminate with no warning and no errors.

It was a fun one to track down. Once reported to us, we couldn't even find a CD with that build of 95 to reproduce the problem in-house.

(Testing this fix was the reason behind delaying the final release of 4.21 for a week).

Extreme kudos to Ruud for figuring this one out and providing a quick solution.

-Brian

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#79712 - 2003-05-15 05:02 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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At least someone who works for Microsoft still provides fixes for Win 9x. Thanks, Ruud.
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#79713 - 2003-05-15 05:06 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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BTW Shawn,
Nice Avatar. We just saw The Matrix Reloaded last night! I won't give up any information though....

I imagine most will be seeing it tonight (opening night in the USA).

-Brian [Wink]

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#79714 - 2003-05-15 06:30 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Too cool!

Looking forward to 4.5, but isn't there some of the tokenizing already? [Big Grin]

From ScriptLogic:
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As for the future: We look forward to v4.5 with a new 'pre-tokenizing' engine. This will allow the ability to store scripts in tokenized format. This version should be available around the end of summer '03.

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#79715 - 2003-05-15 08:09 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Yes Kent, the 4.2x engine does include a completely new tokenizing system as compared to prior versions.

It is my understanding that KiXtart version 4.5 will be based on the same tokenizing engine, and in addition to tokenizing at runtime, 4.5 will include an SDK, which will allow you to pre-tokenize the scripts prior to runtime.

Of course, pre-tokenizing your code does give you an added measure of security, since code could be protected and passwords could be stored securely.

Hope this helps,
-Brian

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#79716 - 2003-05-15 08:19 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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[Eek!] [Eek!] We could then pre-tokenize whole UDF libraries! Jipiieeee!!! [Smile] Sorry, got excited, I'll tone it down again.
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#79717 - 2003-05-15 10:00 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Hoooorrrrayyy [Big Grin] [Eek!] [Big Grin] [Eek!] [Big Grin]
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#79718 - 2003-05-15 10:25 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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yeah!
every udf tokenized and thus they would have protection against copycats [Wink]
fantastic [Big Grin]
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#79719 - 2003-05-15 11:03 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Will be curious to see how this SDK shakes-out. I am assuming here that there will be a seperate utility to tokenize the scripts, instead of having kix32.exe tokenize the script with a comman-line switch or something.
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#79720 - 2003-05-15 11:25 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Jooel,

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every udf tokenized and thus they would have protection against copycats

Where/who will we go to for knowledge? <SMILE>

Kent

[ 15. May 2003, 23:26: Message edited by: kdyer ]
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#79721 - 2003-05-16 03:28 AM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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PLEASE POST ANY NEW/OLD ISSUES FOUND

I would like to update our AD to use this new version soon, but since I can't just change it on my own (I have to request from our AD Admins), I really want to make sure no one comes up with anything weird or show stopper with this release version.

Thanks.

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#79722 - 2003-05-16 07:14 AM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Have been testing...

Nothing found yet.

(must say I'm not using COM/ADSI/WMI in loginscript and still have Wintendos)
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#79723 - 2003-05-16 09:19 AM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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SDK, pre-tokenized scripts ....

will this be the end of the community as it is today ? [Frown]
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#79724 - 2003-05-16 09:34 AM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Of course, pre-tokenizing your code does give you an added measure of security, since code could be protected and passwords could be stored securely.
That's a bold statement. Are you sure?

Tokenizing code is simply pre-parsing the script text so that it is in a condensed and efficient form.

This will make load times smaller because the script will be smaller and will not require the parse stage when files are loaded.

This will not make the script secure as
  • String constants such as passwords will be in plain text and therefore readable
  • Writing a "reverse-tokenizer" is trivial - most people on this list could create one in a day with little difficulty
I wouldn't want people to get a false impression that tokenizing is in any way a secure method of protecting code or passwords.

Unless of course there is more to the 4.5 SDK than you have mentioned...

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#79725 - 2003-05-16 11:37 AM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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richard, right.
just like ruud pointed out earlier too.

one thing I might wonder, is there going to be another kix-exe that processes those pre-tokenized files or is it going to be handled with the standard kix...
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#79726 - 2003-05-17 11:51 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Brian: Your CHM helpfile contains a mistake in the macro section where you still reference Windows .NET Server under @ProductType. The @ProductType macro listed in the Keyword index is correct. The KIXTART.DOC file has it correct, though.
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#79727 - 2003-05-19 05:15 PM Re: 4.21 *final* is now available
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Thanks Jens,

It appears that the problem was isolated to the macros page. It was correct on the main keyword reference page.

I've informed the party responsible. Look for an update soon. Thanks for the help.
-Brian

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