#65872 - 2002-05-30 08:23 PM
IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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dbeiser
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I have several question regarding IE and IEAK so bear with me.
1) Is each version of IEAK only compatible with the same version of IE? i.e. could I use IEAK 6 to build a package for IE 5.5 SP2 and IE 6 users?
2) If #1 above is true, why wouldn't I just use a script to make all my mods so I don't have to worry about IEAK versions? What does IEAK do that a script won't? If scripts are an option, does anyone have a list of the registry entries?
I found out the hard way that IEAK 5.5 applied to an IE 6 install causes big problems.
3) Is there anyway to back out the IEAK 5.5 changes from the IE 6 clients? or will building an IEAK 6 build and deploying it to the IE 6 clients fix the problem?
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave Dave.Beiser@Percepta-crm.com
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#65874 - 2002-05-30 09:04 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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Radimus
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Most of what IEAK does is put in place IE policies.. and configure the internet control panel, and default shortcuts...
You possibly could undo the reg mods that ieak did, but that could be more difficult than just redeploying IE6
look in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer (and a few others)
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#65875 - 2002-05-30 09:16 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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Detlef Kalass
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I just do the same stuff, first i start with ieak, but now we do all the stuff with poledit or ou pol and some regkey we changed by loginscript. the advantage is: you are mutch more flexible.
Detlef
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#65877 - 2002-05-30 10:32 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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BrianTX
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IEAKs are generally useful for upgrading, however, if it doesn't work just right you can run into big headaches.
There is a solution, albeit a difficult one.
InCtrl5 is a utility that tracks changes made when you run an install. This will allow you to actually create your own install packages and/or update specific files that need to be updates from ie5.5 to ie6 or ie6 to ie5.5. Simply create a "good" installation of ie5.5 and run inctrl5, then install ie6 over it and run inctrl5 again. This will create a record of all the changes that were made. To go backwards, you can verify that all the files that were changed to version 6 are back to version 5.5 and all the registry entries are back to the old way as well.
Here is where you can get the utility.
http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=400&a=4589,00.asp
Brian
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#65878 - 2002-05-30 11:27 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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dbeiser
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Thanks for the info. all.
Brian,
I am fimiliar with programs such as InControl.
The fact is we use images for all our workstation and will never use the upgrade option of IEAK, I only use it to lock down IE.
It sounds like I might want to consider just using kix to lock it down via the registry and dump IEAK. Now all I have to do is figure out where all the registry entries are?
Can you think of any reason why I would want to stick with IEAK?
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#65879 - 2002-05-30 11:34 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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BrianTX
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IEAK is nice... easy to follow and go through. Sure, you can do everything IEAK does through the registry (and more), but IEAK is there to make it easier. That's it's main benefit. If you don't care about that, but want to do everything manually, then you certainly can do that, but not everything is documented by Microsoft.
Brian
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#65882 - 2002-05-31 03:26 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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dbeiser
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NTDOC,
You've got to be kidding me, am I to understand that the IEAK 6 package I just built is only good on Win2K or WinNT and will blow-up my WINXP workstations?
If that's the case I am diffently going to do this via the registry. Now we're talking three versions, 5.5, 6, and 6XP!
THANKS AGAIN MICKY SOFT!
Dave
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#65883 - 2002-05-31 03:31 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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dbeiser
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Next question....
Does anyone have a list of the registry settings for IE handy?
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#65885 - 2002-05-31 06:06 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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NTDOC
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#65886 - 2002-05-31 08:59 PM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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dbeiser
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Loc: Melbourne, FL, USA
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NTDOC,
Please confirm your statement:
"EAK6 is NOT designed for XP. XP has its own "special" version of IE."
I cannot find anything that states IEAK 6 is NOT designed for Windows XP.
On the contrary Q304872 "Unable to Install Internet Explorer 6 on Windows XP" describes an issue with installing IE onto an existing XP system and the work around. This should explain Shawn's problem.
My only thought is why you would want to install IE6 onto an exiting XP system when IE6 already exists? The install is ONLY for systems you want to upgrade to IE6.
To apply the IEAK 6 modifications to existing systems (WINXP, WIN2K, or NT, etc.) you use the INS script generated by IEAK. Of course there are a few tricks to getting this to work. If anyone needs help, let me know.
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#65890 - 2002-06-05 04:47 AM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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Kdyer
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Doc,
You da man!!
I remember seeing this a time or two in my travels.. I will be sure to share with my colleagues.
Thanks again,
- Kent
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#65891 - 2002-06-05 04:50 AM
Re: IEAK 6 vs. Registry Edits via Scripting?
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NTDOC
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Thanks Kent, but I was not really the one to find it originally.
Some guy named Dana Eddy contacted Shawn, off line and gave him the Q article.
I never even thought to look for it, cause I thought Shawn already fixed it. I did find the Q article though before Shawn could tell me what it was, but that was thanks to GOOGLE not Microsoft sight.
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