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#61754 - 2001-12-30 10:11 AM Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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We are in the process of putting togther a plane to upgrade our NT4.0 wstns to XP, however, we need to redirect Windows Update URL site to our local Intranet location on all clients.

I checked the GPO but all I could find is the policy to Disable Windows update!.

Any help would be appreciated

Sam

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#61755 - 2001-12-30 01:07 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
Anonymous
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With Kixtart you can write to the registry with "WRITEVALUE".
So you can change the windows update url to the url you want.
On my Windows2000 Pro machine the url can be found in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate.
I don't no or it's different by other windows versions.
But if you search for WindowsUpdate in the registry I'm sure you can found the key.

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#61756 - 2001-12-30 01:35 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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I was able to find the Key, however, I could not find any reference to Microsoft Windows Update site!!. Where does windows gets the information of the update site (URL)?

Sam

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#61757 - 2001-12-30 02:51 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
Anonymous
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In my register by the specified key there is a string value named "url" with the url to the windows update site; http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/?Start
If there is no one in your registry, add them manual and try or it works or not.

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#61758 - 2001-12-30 03:11 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
Anonymous
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UPDATE: I have tested it on my system and changing the key doesn't make Windows Update goes to an another site, so the url must be specified somewhere else.
I get searching for it...

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#61759 - 2001-12-30 03:16 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
Anonymous
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Yes found it!
Go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Help_Menu_Urls"
There you can find the string value called "3" with as value the url to windows update.

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#61760 - 2001-12-30 03:32 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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The update on windows xp professional (test station) works fine, yet the key does NOT contain any reference to any URL.

This is really frastrating by microsoft, it should be a policy in the GPO where the disable policy is, and not hidden somewhere were we have to dig for it.

I hope someone can shed some light on this issue.

Thanks

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#61761 - 2001-12-30 03:41 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
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Checked the help_menu_urls but it is EMPTY!.

What OS are you using Winkel?, please note that I'm using XP (it should not make a difference...I think!).

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#61762 - 2001-12-30 05:40 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
Anonymous
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I have look in the registry of WinNT server SP6a en W2K pro.
Both haves this keys.
What is the result if your searching for http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/?IE in the registry?

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#61763 - 2001-12-31 06:37 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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Nothing!!
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#61764 - 2001-12-31 08:08 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
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Lasad, I checked your question and started to search info on the issue and then when it seems so hard to find an answer I'm asking.
can there be a tweak solution?
simply like disabling the windows update and to add to menu your own "windows update" shortcut.
and if you have really a nice server where you want the link to point, you can put your nameserver to link the windowsupdate.microsoft.com address to that server, right?

so, if not the nice way is available, do it the hard way... or what?!?!?

and yet there is logonscripts for application updates. so you have uttleast 3 simple ways to go around this problem.

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#61765 - 2001-12-31 08:31 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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Lonkero,

Thanks for the info, I have to say creating my own Windows update shortcut sounds good, however, I have read in windows update documents that it is possible to override the default URL for coroperate solution (save on internet bandwidth) but it does not say HOW!.

Thanks

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#61766 - 2001-12-31 08:42 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
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so I'll check up again. if it's posible, it probably is also somewhere somehow documented...
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#61767 - 2001-12-31 08:52 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
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well.
this is pretty plain:
quote:
Distribution and InstallationBack to top
Once you have downloaded components from the Windows Update Corporate site and have stored them on your network server or local machine, use existing internal deployment mechanisms to redistribute files throughout your organization.


Install - Software Updates
The software update installation packages on the Windows Update Corporate site are self-extracting files, which automatically begin the installation process when they are executed. To execute a package double-click it. If you prefer to run setup in quiet mode, without any user interaction, use the following command line switch in your deployment scripts:

Start program_file_name.exe /q

Note Some software updates do require a reboot after install.


so, as I understood it, there is no way to change the way it works, but you need to use your own mechanism.
but you can use one download for all computers by accessing http://corporate.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp
this is the stuff microsoft tells about it.
maybe some other source reviels more...

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#61768 - 2002-01-01 12:14 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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Well, I think I figured it out, the URL can only be modified during the IE setup using the IEAK were you can specify an alternative URL in the ADDON.HTM file.

However, does that mean we have to re distribute the IE program to all users? (I hope not!), is there an alternative?.

Sam

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#61769 - 2002-01-01 12:15 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
Anonymous
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Lasad: If you give my your emailaddress I will send you my registry key.
Import this one in your registry and replace the url to an url you want.
I hope this will help.

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#61770 - 2001-12-31 02:05 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
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lasad, I got it changed on ie, but on start menu...
msdn talked about control dll's...
well, if winkel can help good so, but I'm little suspicious about it...
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#61771 - 2002-01-02 08:09 AM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
LASAD Offline
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Sandar,

Thanks for the registry key, but it does not work on XP, after importing it into my registry I tried to change the location but it was still going to Windowsupdate.microsoft.com site, I will keep on researching this problem and if I find anything I will post it here.

Thanks again

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#61772 - 2002-01-02 06:11 PM Re: Override Windows Update URL using KIX
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Lasad -
Perhaps you could perform this change externally. By this I mean having your internal proxy server redirect internal HTTP queries to the MS Windows Update page to your internal corporate page. This solution is not as elegant as setting each system individually, but may be simpler to maintain without reinstalling IE using the Admin Kit. If you have no proxy server, well, then I guess this solution is of no benefit to you.
Bill

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