Shawn, Hi ,

ah yep i knew MB ... [same name here in Germany] but 'battleship' was new for me.

Ok lets see ... no Joch would be to short [Josh rather than Joe]...ehhh the roots of this name are coming from 'Johannes'.
i think the anglo-american countries call him just John (Yes,the one with the River and the religious people he is holding under water)....
hmmm, the 'ch' is pronounced like ..*icantthinkaboutanywordinenglishpronouncedthesameway* ...[
it is really no'k'... try to build the sound deep in throat (sounds a bit like a scratching LP or the spanish name José )

I must leave You now as the F1-Race in Montreal is about to start....

Cheers,
Bilbo Baggins

p.s: i am a passioned and certified 'Halflife-Killer'...

p.p.s.: birthday and dates .... James got already a wrong guess ... SEE: HANDLING DATES - TOPIC by LD

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