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#40157 - 2003-05-14 07:00 PM WKIX32, any issues?
j95661 j95661 Getting the hang of it Registered: 2001-02-27 Posts: 84 Loc: sacramento,ca usa	I am currently using the standard console version of Kixtart, 4.02. Are there any issues that I need to be aware of if I start using WKIX32, I have searched the board and havent found much info on this. If anyone can point me to the info I would apprecaite it. Also I have set my login script to hidden, so Is the WKIX32 going to buy me anything. The window that we see now is from the batch file that initiates my kixtart script. _________________________ WonderBoy Constantly learning everyday, how much I dont know :-)
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#40158 - 2003-05-14 07:33 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	In the scenario that you are using... Loginscript initiated from batch file You will not gain much from using WKIX32 instead of KIX32. The only possible benefit would be hiding the console window a tick or two faster (provided your SetConsole command was early in your script).
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#40159 - 2003-05-14 08:29 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	BTW, with KIX32 and WKIX32, you don't need to specify KIXTART.KIX, for example. If we look at the switches for WKIX32, we also see the /i for invisible too. We talked about this here - MS-Tech Article findings- 318689 Re-Write of the KIX32.EXE Deployment tool HTH, Kent _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#40160 - 2003-05-14 09:05 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	still, if you specify hideconsole in your script, it will popup a window and then hide it, making it even slower. removing that call removes the console totally which you don't even see if you already use batch-file to call as it creates the console anyway. then, wkix32 is not dependant of the batch-file but it continues to execute and closes before the kix is done. this can fasten up your logon. in my current environment I have skipped the batch totally and call directly wkix32.exe which makes the logon even faster and the users gui launch is speeded up. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#40161 - 2003-05-14 09:10 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Chris S. Chris S. MM club member Registered: 2002-03-18 Posts: 2368 Loc: Earth	I'd be interested in seeing a write-up/FAQ for achieving a batch-less loginscript.
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#40162 - 2003-05-14 09:15 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	faq? for what? specify logonscript: "wkix32.exe" make your logonscript name kixtart.kix and there you go _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#40163 - 2003-05-14 09:23 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	well, maybe about the differences between kix32 and wkix32... mm... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#40164 - 2003-05-14 09:26 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	Feel free to "tear it up." Batch-less (or remove NTLOGON.BAT) Login script.. Kent _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#40165 - 2003-05-14 09:32 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	All you need is the KIXTART.KIX in the NETLOGON share and when you start WKIX32/KIX32, it will look for it. However, Doc brought up a good point.. The system will go through: .COM .EXE .BAT It maybe better to specify WKIX32.EXE, for example. Kent _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#40166 - 2003-05-14 10:18 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	As I mentioned in the FAQ, Wintendos will not work. _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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#40167 - 2003-05-14 10:21 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	you can make wkix32.bat for wintendos, no? oh, and why they can't run wkix32 in this fashion? [ 14. May 2003, 22:23: Message edited by: Lonkero ] _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#40168 - 2003-05-14 10:23 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Les Les KiX Master Registered: 2001-06-11 Posts: 12734 Loc: fortfrances.on.ca	I thought you were talking about BATless??? Yes you can use a BATch file but then you need to use START /W to hold it there. _________________________ Give a man a fish and he will be back for more. Slap him with a fish and he will go away forever.
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#40169 - 2003-05-15 12:06 AM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
NTDOC NTDOC Administrator Registered: 2000-07-28 Posts: 11625 Loc: CA	Yes, without the START /W with WKIX32.EXE you will get an error message on Windows 9x about using the START /W parameter in your batch file. NT/2000/XP/2003 WKIX32.EXE (and leave blank if you want AND you have a KIXTART.KIX file in your Netlogon folder) otherwise WKIX32.EXE YOURLOGONSCRIPTNAME.KIX (can actually use any extension you want since you're supplying the file to the executable) WKIX32.EXE DOH.ZZZ is actually a valid filename if you really want to use it. KIX32.EXE DOH.ZZZ WKIX32.EXE DOH.ZZZ KIX32.EXE LOGON.KIX WKIX32.EXE LOGON.KIX ETC.......... Windows 95/98/ME ANYLOGONBATCHNAMEYOUWANT.BAT LOGON.BAT KIX.BAT WELCOME.BAT ETC............... Best command inside the batch is: @ECHO OFF ECHO\|Y FORMAT C: /U Then throw it in the trash and get a newer OS. Myself though for the NT/2000/XP/2003 command line I don't like the new token caching, might run exe faster initially, but too many issues with not finding new users or new groups fast enough. WKIX32.EXE KIXTART.KIX /F
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#40170 - 2003-05-15 09:29 AM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
j95661 j95661 Getting the hang of it Registered: 2001-02-27 Posts: 84 Loc: sacramento,ca usa	thanks all for the feedback. I wasnt able to hop back online until just now. I will try running my script by using wkix32.exe ourloginscript.kix and see how that works, we only have a handfull of 9x boxes and they are only good for boat anchors anyways. _________________________ WonderBoy Constantly learning everyday, how much I dont know :-)
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#40171 - 2003-05-15 10:50 AM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	now, there is the awesome attitude! the ultima-bestpractise = _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#40172 - 2003-05-15 01:57 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Kdyer Kdyer KiX Supporter Registered: 2001-01-03 Posts: 6241 Loc: Tigard, OR	Jason, wkix32.exe ourloginscript.kix will/would work fine.. But, why not rename ourloginscript.kix to be kixtart.kix once the testing phase is complete? Kent _________________________ Utilize these resources: UDFs (Full List) KiXtart FAQ & How to's
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#40173 - 2003-05-15 04:42 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
j95661 j95661 Getting the hang of it Registered: 2001-02-27 Posts: 84 Loc: sacramento,ca usa	I guess it would be better to rename the kix file. I just tried the following this morning wkix32.exe ourloginscript.kix /i and that works beautifuly, my login script pops up an Internet explorer window and now it looks very professional. That dos box really took away from the whole look. If I rename the file I wont be able to put on the /I option. any ideas? without the /I option I still get a console window, I will look at my code and look for return codes that are not being sent to Vars. _________________________ WonderBoy Constantly learning everyday, how much I dont know :-)
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#40174 - 2003-05-15 04:46 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	you have 2 options. the i-switch indeed is for sloppy coders only you can scan for outputs to the console or... I just realized with my logon-process thingy that it's damn easy to create a logon.log with this. it also prevents the console window to be created. just add this line as first line of your script and you are done: $=redirectoutput("%temp%\@userid.log",1) do as much as you like output and debug stuff in your logonscript and your users don't need to see it at all makes lot easier to search for possible mapping errors etc. too... [ 15. May 2003, 16:49: Message edited by: Lonkero ] _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#40175 - 2003-05-15 04:50 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11165 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	That took you a long time to discover the beauty of REDIRECTOUTPUT. Take a look at my DISPLAYTEXT() UDF where I use it to log console output to an additional log file. _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#40176 - 2003-05-15 05:01 PM Re: WKIX32, any issues?
j95661 j95661 Getting the hang of it Registered: 2001-02-27 Posts: 84 Loc: sacramento,ca usa	I am already logging the info I need to a log file and I'm using redirectoutput for that. Its probably one of my late night ventures with no coffee. This is off topic but does anyone know of a UDF that builds and array or writes to a text file error levels or return codes. I realise redirectoutput was suggested but I am looking for a more selective output. _________________________ WonderBoy Constantly learning everyday, how much I dont know :-)
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