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#25190 - 2002-07-16 10:26 PM Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
KCWill Offline
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I upgraded our existing WinNt 4.0 and W2K Servers with the final release of KiXtart last night, and this morning wished I hadn't. The Win9x clients were getting the following error, when trying to log onto the Network:

A Fatal Exception Error at 07 has occured at 0028:C605312D in VXDWIMMU32P (01) + 00053121. Current application will be terminated

After the Win95 client machines recieved this error, the PC had to be rebuilt. It appears that the error resulted in either damaging the registry or part of the Operating System. Currently it looks like about a dozen machines are going to have to be rebuilt, until then those useres cannot work. I guess I should have tested the Final Release in our lab before I put it on the servers. I just hadn't had this kind of trouble, with KiXtart, before. "Once Bitten, Twice Shy". Thanks.
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#25191 - 2002-07-16 10:51 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
MCA Offline
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Dear,

We are running this release in W95/ME/NT4/W2K/XP client environment with NT4/W2k with-
out AD as servers without any problem.
Possible that it has to do with some other things in your environment.
Some questions:
  • what active processes are running after a startup? f.e. virusscanner
  • what are you doing in your script?
  • did you try a simple script like f.e.
    code:
    $null=MessageBox("Kixtart @kix starting","KiXtart info")

  • were are the kixtart binaries installed? client and/or server?
  • how are you calling kixtart? kix32.exe or wkix32.exe?
  • are there no older kixtart kixtart binaries on your servers and clients?
    be sure that a servers are running the same kixtart binaries.
  • can you return the current releases of system DLL's f.e. by using MSINFO32
    (= additional program of Office package)
    or a directory list of it.
greetings.
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#25192 - 2002-07-16 11:35 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
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KCWill,

search on a clean machine for the WIMMU32 file. Digging deep into my RAM I found something about WIMMU VXD's...
Do you have Inoculan Antivirus installed? If so maybe the viles of Inoculan are corrupt...

Does the script run during logon or after (runonce)? If after try disabling antivirus.
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#25193 - 2002-07-16 11:43 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
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I am also running KiXtart 4.10 in a mixed environment and have no problems at all.
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#25194 - 2002-07-16 11:49 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
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Dear,

Take also a look at topics
http://81.17.37.55/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002760

http://81.17.37.55/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=003479
greetings.

btw: mostly it has to deal with specific software which settles very deeply in your client.
f.e. software for virus and firewall.

[ 16 July 2002, 23:50: Message edited by: MCA ]
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#25195 - 2002-07-18 05:44 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
KCWill Offline
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Registered: 2002-06-07
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Loc: Kansas City
MightyR1, you hit the nail on the head.
KCWill,

search on a clean machine for the WIMMU32 file. Digging deep into my RAM I found something about WIMMU VXD's...
Do you have Inoculan Antivirus installed? If so maybe the viles of Inoculan are corrupt...


When we uninstalled InoculateIT from these machines, we were then able to log-on. MightyR1 saved us a 1-2 days worth of work. Thanks! The question this raises now is why, when I replaced KiXtart with the final release, InoculateIT was damaged on these 6 or 8 machines. All of the Win9x workstations on our Network run InoculateIT. I don't understand what caused only some of the machines to be damaged. It's possible that these machines may have had an eariler version of InoculateIT, but they wouldn't have been the only Computers with the eariler version of InoculateIT? At this point I don't seen any reason or advantage to use the Final Release of KiXtart, when the eariler version ran without these problems. I'm interested in hearing what ideas people may have that could explain this problem. Thanks again?
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#25196 - 2002-07-18 10:26 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
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KCWILL,

it has nothing to do with KiX; KiX Rulez [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I'm using Win9X for my clients [Frown] . We use the avupdate.exe for our Win9X machines. For some reason sometimes (can't be reproduced) Inoculate stuff gets corrupted.

CA support doesn't give much info about this. Their solution is installing Inoculan allover again...
Our solution: copy all files from a no problemo client (c:\progra...\inoculan\antivi~1\*.* )to the problemo client. If files are in use try in DOS mode.

You'll have to live with it [Wink] No reason to not use KiX4.10a!!!!!
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#25197 - 2002-07-18 10:46 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
Lonkero Administrator Offline
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there is easier solution though...
use other antivirus-software [Razz]
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#25198 - 2002-07-18 10:52 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
MightyR1 Offline
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Duhh,

Yep, your right. If it was me to make the decision...
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- Knowledge is power; knowing how to find it is more powerful...
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#25199 - 2002-07-19 01:08 AM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
KCWill Offline
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Registered: 2002-06-07
Posts: 9
Loc: Kansas City
Hi all. Just a heads up. This error might actually be caused by the "W32/Yaha.E Worm". It seems that this worm may have been the cause of the damaged VXD in InoculateIT. This Virus also appears to attempt to remove McAfee, Norton, and other Anti-Virus programs. On a side note, I have used McAfee Enterprise Anti-Virus Software and it leaves a lot to be desired when compared to InoculateIT. I don't select the software I just have to use it. It's purchased through a State wide Contract. Anyway, and more Importantly, thanks for all of the support. I'll try and post any other information I find out about this error. [Frown]
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#25200 - 2002-07-19 05:47 PM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
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Loc: Boston, MA, USA
Now the questions is how such an 'old' virus (found June 17, but older AV signatures were also able to detect it) could slip though your AV software? That might be something to worry about.
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#25201 - 2002-07-22 12:25 AM Re: Fatal Exception Error with Final Release!
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Dear,

Mostly the accuratesse of virus software isn't depending of definition files, but also
some patches to your EXE influence the way it is working.
Also for heavy stations with advise to use two or more scanners. What the first is missing
will be catch by the other. Of course the software and definition files must be
up to date also.
An advantage is too, when your software can control your email system also.
greetings.
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