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#207852 - 2013-10-04 02:47 PM Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Hi guys, this might get another unsolved question: OS is W2K3 SE Server SP2. I don't have to but would like to programmatically find out the amount of pages a scanned document in .TIF format has. I guess it might get tricky up to near unsolvable as explorer holds no value for 'pages' _________________________
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#207853 - 2013-10-04 03:03 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Oh and, if there is a solution, idk, ActiveX or whatever, it should be able to handle the Info for 600k + files in finite time _________________________
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#207854 - 2013-10-04 05:20 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4563 Loc: USA	The Extended File Property PAGES is honored by PDFs but it doesn't appear to honor TIF, maybe there is another property that will though. GetExtFileProperties() - http://www.kixtart.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=160880#Post160880 Also, here is a utility (never personally used it) http://www.tucows.com/preview/517262/Tiff--PDF-Page-Counter-FREEWARE
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#207855 - 2013-10-04 05:37 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	why not just pure kix $;\)$ Code: function tiffPageCount($filePath) dim $oFo,$sFi $filePath=split($filePath,'\') $sFi=$filePath[ubound($filePath)] $filePath[ubound($filePath)] = '' $oFo = CreateObject("Shell.Application").namespace(join($filePath,'\')) $tiffPageCount = $oFo.GetDetailsOf($oFo.Parsename($sFi),13) endfunction COMPLETELY untested. written in the quick edit window, so use at own risk $\:\)$ _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#207856 - 2013-10-04 06:14 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Lonkero]
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4563 Loc: USA	If all else fails, you could convert the Tiffs to PDF with something like ImageMagick and then use the ext file property of PAGES. http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
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#207857 - 2013-10-04 06:39 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Allen]
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	umm .. nope .. can't do that Allen. But thanx a bunch anyway. @Joeel: eh, will test that one fo sure edit: hey, thats almost the same as Allens published udf .. SO, why not just test both .. as said, it will be a nice to have if it doesn't kill me on the runtime side (as said, the amount of files to be touched is 600k+ Edited by Jochen (2013-10-04 06:44 PM) Edit Reason: Yay @Allen _________________________
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#207859 - 2013-10-05 02:00 AM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	if it works, the code can be easily modified to go for the folder and do for each $file in $folder.items that should give a bit of speed and since we are talking about 6000000 files, all speed is good speed $;\)$ _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#207863 - 2013-10-06 09:56 AM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Lonkero]
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	ok, not even remotely successfull .. no pages returned for tif $\:$$ @Allen: very useful udf you got there though .. thx for the complete attribute list. sigh $;$$ _________________________
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#207864 - 2013-10-06 04:23 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4563 Loc: USA	I found a solution using Powershell. If you have seen my posts in the Com forum, we can access powershell through a com call/dll. The only way i have seen it work though is it counts the pages of all the tifs in a directory. I tried and tried to get it to work with one file, with no success. Any interest in this?
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#207866 - 2013-10-07 04:51 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Allen]
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	why would it work any better with powershell? I mean, cool if you did, but I just can't see how powershell has more knowledge than windows shell? anyways, tiff utils (http://www.remotesensing.org/libtiff/) should have a solution for this, but it is file by file... win32 binaries are available from http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/tiff.htm and the util you would be interested is tiffinfo.exe _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#207867 - 2013-10-07 05:07 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Lonkero]
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Hi guys, I wouldn't complain if it was whole directory or file by file as long as I can distinguish between the files. @Allen: yes, I found your Powershell post (and read it back in 2007).. samples are always welcome. Registering/installing stuff on the platform I have to use is a nogo though. @Jooel: will try the tool you linked me to as well. Thank you guys. _________________________
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#207869 - 2013-10-07 05:16 PM

Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]

Jochen Offline

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Registered: 2000-03-17
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No cigar for tiffinfo.exe:

Code:

D:\Data\Scripts\KiXtart>tiffinfo.exe WelcomeFax.tif
TIFF Directory at offset 0x1869c (99996)
  Subfile Type: (0 = 0x0)
  Image Width: 816 Image Length: 1056
  Resolution: 96, 96 pixels/inch
  Bits/Sample: 8
  Compression Scheme: LZW
  Photometric Interpretation: RGB color
  Samples/Pixel: 3
  Rows/Strip: 5
  Planar Configuration: single image plane
  Predictor: none 1 (0x1)

Pages? Naaaah $\:D$

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#207870 - 2013-10-07 05:37 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
ShaneEP ShaneEP MM club member Registered: 2002-11-29 Posts: 2127 Loc: Tulsa, OK	Jochen, you happen to have a multi page tiff you dont mind uploading to play around with?
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#207871 - 2013-10-07 05:52 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: ShaneEP]
ShaneEP ShaneEP MM club member Registered: 2002-11-29 Posts: 2127 Loc: Tulsa, OK	It looks like there may be a way to crawl through the file looking at the IFDs. There is 1 IFD for every page.
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#207872 - 2013-10-07 05:54 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: ShaneEP]
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	The -D option will force tiffinfo to read and decompress all the data in a file (but not display it). http://renderman.pixar.com/resources/current/rps/tiffinfo.1.html _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#207882 - 2013-10-08 02:53 AM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Lonkero]
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4563 Loc: USA	Powershell has access to .net... you know, the thing we keep asking for?
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#207883 - 2013-10-08 11:11 AM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Allen]
BillBarnard BillBarnard Starting to like KiXtart Registered: 2007-03-14 Posts: 141 Loc: Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire...	Have you tried tiffdump ? http://www.davince.com/docs/tiffdump.html Cheers, _________________________ Bill
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#207936 - 2013-10-24 04:08 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: BillBarnard]
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Hi guys, thanx for all your replies so far.. Well, plan has been changed in the mean time, files will be converted to pdf/a format before Mig.. so all efforts were useless m/ Thx @all, case rested. _________________________
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#208195 - 2013-12-23 11:54 PM Re: Scanned documents in .TIF format .. tricky question [Re: Jochen]
Björn Björn Korg Regular Registered: 2005-12-07 Posts: 953 Loc: Stockholm, Sweden.	Found this page; http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/ And this tifffile.py; http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/code/tifffile.py.html Here be binaries for winblows: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#vlfd Don't have any TIFF's to try it out on tho. _________________________ as long as it works - why fix it? If it doesn't work - kix-it!
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