#18908 - 2002-03-21 02:38 PM
Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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mobious
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Registered: 2002-03-20
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Hi,
I was wondering if there is any way to use the ingroup function if you do not have a domain controller (giant file/print server)?
Thanks
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#18909 - 2002-03-21 02:40 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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Howard Bullock
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Registered: 2000-09-15
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Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA
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Where do the "groups" live that you want to check using "Ingroup"?
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#18910 - 2002-03-21 03:20 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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mobious
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They live on the fileserver itself, our company is rolling out win2k servers and without active directory as file/print servers.
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#18911 - 2002-03-21 03:23 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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Howard Bullock
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Try:
if ingroup ("Servername\administrators")
? "in there - 1"
endif
OR
if ingroup ("\\Servername\administrators")
? "in there - 2"
endif
The "\\" should not matter
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#18912 - 2002-03-21 03:28 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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mobious
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I tried the \\servername\groupname and it didn't work.
I also found that on nt\xp machines it would work providing the group was a local group.
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#18914 - 2002-03-21 03:57 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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mobious
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We're not logging into the server we're authenticating against the server the workstation username / password matches the server and they can then get access to file/print
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#18915 - 2002-03-21 04:09 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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Howard Bullock
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Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA
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mobious, if you are trying to get a generic script running for users in this environment, you have a big problem. I was under the impression you were trying to write an Admin script where you want to check group for a person logging onto the Server.
Without a domain, where are the users logging on? How do you plan to run a script? Without a domain there is no single identity for a user. How do plan on setting up security? There are many questions here.
[ 21 March 2002, 16:09: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]
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#18917 - 2002-03-21 06:07 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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mobious
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The reason that they didn't want to use active directory is because I'm the only one familiar with it, I would rather do this with ad but this is what they wanted, I'm just trying to implement it.
The script I have works fine except for specific groups that need specific printers etc.
Thanks for the help
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#18918 - 2002-03-22 01:43 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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Dean R
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Registered: 2002-03-15
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Loc: Ireland, but Im an Aussie
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Why not just have a NT pdc sitting by itself at the side?
Your machines can then all be W2k, you wont need AD and you still have your groups.
Of course I have to say, have a bdc there too, just in case. You are going to be a busy person if you are going to stick with what you have.
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#18919 - 2002-03-22 01:46 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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Dean R
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Your PDC does not have to be your file/print, as long as it is relatively capable of handling NT server.
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#18920 - 2002-03-22 02:21 PM
Re: Getting group information w/o a domain controller
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coxmcse
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Yeah, have an NT4 PDC and a smile... don't forget a BDC to do a little C.Y.A for the Admin. And if the network is small enough, having a Win2K domain controller is not a big issue at all... you don't have to use active directory if you don't want to.
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