#186332 - 2008-03-18 09:41 AM
Re: A tough one: removing IE address bar
[Re: ddady]
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Richard H.
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It will be a little hard cause i will have to gather all ip's from all computers and build a couple of rules and groups, but that's what they are paying me for, isn't?
There are a couple of ways to simplify your task.
Method 1 (if your firewall allows it)
- Set the firewall to block access to your entire subnet.
- Add an exception to allow everyone to access the "allowed" sites.
- Add an exception to allow specific hosts (managers, servers) unrestricted access
Doing it this way means that there are a lot less hosts to worry about, and when a new computer comes along it is automatically barred.
There are a lot of problems with this method though.
- It is difficult to manage for sites using DHCP
- If your managers need to use a machine other than their normal one they will get blocked.
- If anyone uses your managers machine they will be allowed access.
- Managing URLs or IPs for allowed sites on a router is difficult, and means that you have to make a change on what is usually a high profile bit of kit. In my organisation such a change hhas to wait until a pre-determined maintenance period.
- It is very hard to determine if there are any problems, or if anyone is bypassing your restrictions, and if they are, who they are.
Method 2 - The Proxy Most people go with the proxy method because of the problems detailed above. You can use also use a product like Websense if your firewall supports HTTP authorisation referalls (we use Websense in my organisation) but it is extremely expensive and I get the impression that it would be over-complicated in your scenario. It is also a bit kludgy in various areas.
The proxy method is very simple.
- Choose a proxy which will intergrate into Windows authentication (it doesn't need to be a Windows device, LDAP authentication will do)
- Even better is if the proxy will take pass-through authentication (aka Windows Integrated Authentication).
- On your firewall, deny access to all hardware *except* your servers and your proxy.
- On your proxy configure the users and groups who will have access, and define the sites that they will have access to.
- On your clients set the connection target to the proxy, either by GPO or by using one of the proxy auto-discovery techniques
Doing it this way gives you many benefits:
- Because everyone except the firewall computer is blocked there is no way to bypass the security from the client.
- You can now authorise / authenticate using Windows users and groups.
- You don't need to worry about machine IP addresses changing (DHCP).
- You now have the option of tracking Internet usage - useful for things like compliance and capacity planning.
- The tools for updating authorisation rules are likely to be much more easy to use than changing a firewall configuration
- You no longer change the firewall config when you need to update authorisation rules
Your firewall may be able to do some of these, but I wasn't able to find any information on an "NG3" to check.
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