What I can't understand is this ... guys just don't wake up in the morning and think to themselves "think I will propose to my girlfriend at the ball game today". I mean, wasn't marriage mentioned in the past ? Was this not discussed ? Did the woman not say anything or give any kind of hint that yes, I would like to marry you ... I mean cripes.

If these guys really didn't see this coming - then maybe they were proposing in the public eye to "force" them into saying yes ?

-Shawn