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#156001 - 2006-01-25 09:04 PM Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Always wanted to post a poll. Rad's latest post got me to wondering what tech types think of the following three questions ...
Do you believe there is Extraterrestrial Life out there in our universe ?
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Yes
No


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Do you believe there is Intelligent Extraterrestrial Life out there (at our level and beyond) ?
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Do you believe Intelligent Extraterrestrial Life has visited our planet ?
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#156002 - 2006-01-25 09:11 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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seems to happen that I was the first to vote here

1. Yeah, all else would be a huge waste of Space don't cha think ?
2. See 1.
3. Improbably
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#156003 - 2006-01-25 09:15 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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ja, my thoughts line-up with yours, but here's a twist:

Do you believe life on this planet, started from life out there ?

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#156004 - 2006-01-25 09:17 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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I say yes to all...

..except maybe Shawn's last comment.


Edited by thepip3r (2006-01-25 09:18 PM)

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#156005 - 2006-01-25 10:44 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Yes, probably, highly doubtful, and no way... sounds too much like Battlestar Galactica.
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#156006 - 2006-01-25 11:05 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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ahhhh, but I didn't mean to suggest that "Intelligent Life" started here, from out there. I meant "the seeds" of life.
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#156007 - 2006-01-25 11:27 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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I think God is out there takes care of #1
God being omnipotent I would think takes care of #2
God was here so that takes care of #3
 
 
Now if you mean little green men, NO.
 
If you mean intelligent life beyond God, I think it is very possible and in fact quite likely.

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#156008 - 2006-01-26 10:56 AM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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good answers there doc

shawn just doesn't get my votes in this poll.
it's not like finnish presidential elections where everyone has strong opinions.

I stand for:
1) dunno
2) dunno
3) dunno
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#156009 - 2006-01-26 01:57 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Like a dutch comedian once said:

If there is life more intelligent than us, they would have found us by now, if they're less intelligent we don't need them anyway, so who cares?
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#156010 - 2006-01-26 02:00 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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If they are intelligent they are probably smart enough to stay away.
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#156011 - 2006-01-26 04:05 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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naa, we are a tiny fish in a REAL big pond. Alies could fish for a real long time before getting a nibble
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#156012 - 2006-01-26 07:46 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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I've done some leisure study on the consistency of the universe and what it takes to sustain life on our planet.

(Speaking from a creationist perspective)
The odds are unfathomable that this is a chance happening when you calculate the variables. In my opinion, God being the all powerful creator of the universe, his one word that spoke us into existence could have created such unimaginable vastness. His attention to us, could have created a single point of focus for his love in all that vastness, which is the earth. .... Something to think about... In my opinion, I'm not going to presume that God can't focus on one pinpoint in all His creation. To me, learning about how vast the universe is makes me appreciate how much God cares and loves us, since his focus is on our lives. In short, The vastness of the universe doesn't distract our Creator from focusing on is.

Take it or leave it, those are my thoughts.
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#156013 - 2006-01-26 10:10 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Those thoughts are fine... the inverse of that argument, is that in an infinite universe and and omnipotent creator, it is kind of presumptuous of US to believe that EVERYTHING is just for our benefit.

Of course, since Mankind's recorded history is no more than 10,000 years or so (call it 20,000 for arguments sake) and it is a real coin toss to say we'll still be here in another 10,000 years, that in a universe where distances are measured in 100's and MUCH more years at light speed. Tiny piece of human time on Earth is nothing compared to the times the rest of the universe has been out there.

God would have to be Infinitely patient as well.
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#156014 - 2006-01-26 10:27 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Asking geeks if they belive in other forms of life is like asking if they've ever used a computer

Also believe that there's life and other universes out there. Even believe that there could be carbon-based life in the same way that our planet works. Think it's more of a "when" rather than "if" question, especially since we already today know of other solar systems similar to our own.

And if we'd had visits from other "extraterrestrial" life, it could have been made totally without our knowledge, since such a travel by them would require technology so far beyond our own comprehension and development in the first place, to travel the vast distance to our solar system.

I also believe in a higher power, a "god" if you wish... but I don't believe in the fable of the christian bible. To me that's a novel most obviously crafted by man, for man - in both senses


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#156015 - 2006-01-26 11:15 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Interesting conversations for 'geeks'. Totally non-scientific/non-technical discussion with mainly religous overtones. Strange, not a question I would expect to see on this board & even more unexpected responses.
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#156016 - 2006-01-26 11:19 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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I love my wife...

Yesterday when I mentioned to her the story from Space.com about the new planet they found, she asked me if it was "Class M"
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#156017 - 2006-01-26 11:20 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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#156018 - 2006-01-26 11:21 PM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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second that masken.
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#156019 - 2006-01-27 12:55 AM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Good point, although, for me, it comes down to perspective. I guess, in my perspective, you can look at the universe like a planter's field, the earth as the seed. At some point, the seed will have been a fruitful tree, but will no longer bare anything useful, the field will be tilled up because it's too hard and crusty for anything useful to grow in it.... and, the way I see it, that's when the fun begins!!

I'd love to address some of the topics raised on this thread, but that's not for this forum so I'll just end my responses here.
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#156020 - 2006-01-27 03:28 AM Re: Do you believe in Alien life ?
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Those thoughts are fine... the inverse of that argument, is that in an infinite universe and and omnipotent creator, it is kind of presumptuous of US to believe that EVERYTHING is just for our benefit.

Of course, since Mankind's recorded history is no more than 10,000 years or so (call it 20,000 for arguments sake) and it is a real coin toss to say we'll still be here in another 10,000 years, that in a universe where distances are measured in 100's and MUCH more years at light speed. Tiny piece of human time on Earth is nothing compared to the times the rest of the universe has been out there.

God would have to be Infinitely patient as well.




BTW, when I say Mankind's recorded history... I mean of Human Beings... I firmly realize the millions of years of dinosaurs that preceeded us.

The 20,000 years, is the period of time I'd think that aliens would have to find us and consider us 'sentient life' However, considering some of the helpdesk calls I get, that is a different topic for discussion...
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