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#154693 - 2006-01-07 02:54 AM How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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When logon, I don't expect users terminate application by using Tasks Management. How can I do it?

Thanks in advance.
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#154694 - 2006-01-07 02:58 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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remove "break on" from your script

then if they do break it, they logoff
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#154695 - 2006-01-07 03:05 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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IMHO, one should never use break on.
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#154696 - 2006-01-07 04:20 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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I see.But my script will invoke a external executive application, and it will take severial minutes, so users can use TM to terminate the application process, but I expect they wait until the program exit normally. How to?
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#154697 - 2006-01-07 04:37 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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the application should run hidden, and if it's a proper application, it will not hold logon but runs asynchronous.
thus does not harm users but lets them get working.
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#154698 - 2006-01-07 06:32 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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Actually,we want to make a schedule to run the application on every NT client, but the 'at' command needs the administrator right, it troubles me, and for my short-knowledge, I don't know how to make it run hiddenly.Could you show me some link to study?
Any feedback is appreciated!
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#154699 - 2006-01-07 06:50 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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every app is different.

If you want specific answers, provide specific details
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#154700 - 2006-01-07 06:55 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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yep.
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#154701 - 2006-01-07 08:10 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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Well disable their rights to run Task Manager.


Use a policy
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/docum...entry/93504.asp
 
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#154702 - 2006-01-07 08:33 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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Thanks!

But make a schedule for common user, what can I do?
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#154703 - 2006-01-07 08:56 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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but answering a simple question what program you are trying to execute, could you do?
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#154704 - 2006-01-07 09:32 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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You can remotely deploy a task right from your own workstation if you have Admin rights on the remote system.

A group policy though does not require that.

Do you need help running a remote script?

Basically you can create a task on your workstation and copy it to the remote system. You can also use JT.EXE from Microsoft to schedule tasks.



You could also use the Task Scheduler Administrator from Glenn Barnas (required KiXforms to run)

http://www.innotechcg.com/

http://gw.innotechcg.com:2080/images/tsadm.zip

KiXforms can be downloaded here:
http://www.kixforms.com
 
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#154705 - 2006-01-07 02:01 PM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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AT tasks can easily be scheduled remotely. AT tasks run under the LocalSystem account and would run hidden (not interact with the desktop) so the only way the user would know it was running was to look in Task Manager.

Task Scheduler has additional features over AT but has a steeper learning curve. The following example will create AT tasks on the remote computers.
Code:

Break on
Dim $Comp, $Comps
$Comps = 'comp1','comp2','comp3'
For Each $Comp in $Comps
  Shell 'AT \\'+$Comp+' 22:45:00 /every:M,T,W,Th,F,S,Su shutdown /l /f /r'
Next
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#154706 - 2006-01-11 04:18 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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Thanks all above!

And could I ask another question? How to run notepad.exe hiddenly, I means, users can not seen the process by Tasks managemer.
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#154707 - 2006-01-11 06:07 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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You can run it with COM but no so sure it would not be seen in TaskManager or not.
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#154708 - 2006-01-11 07:18 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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one can't hide processes from taskman.
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#154709 - 2006-01-11 08:39 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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Oh bet me... How do you think rootkits work


But, more to the point what I meant was that you might be able to run the COM call and it may not show the application that it's running. Have not tested though.
 
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#154710 - 2006-01-11 09:30 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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afaik, all the processes that are ran are always shown.
think one could somehow plug a exe to dll so it would seem that some services.exe is actually running it...
but have no idea what measures need to be taken to hide a program execution like that.
and in that case, it wouldn't no longer be that process being executed, per se.
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#154711 - 2006-01-17 02:06 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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OK!
If server distributes a schedule task for remote clients, the users can not kill the task process. Now my question is that, if I want to collect all clients in my network for scheduling a task, could you tell me what I can do?
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#154712 - 2006-01-17 02:07 AM Re: How to breakable keybord or disable Tasks Management?
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OK!
If server distributes a schedule task for remote clients, the users can not kill the task process. Now my question is that, if I want to collect all clients in my network for scheduling a task, could you tell me how to do this?
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