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#153196 - 2005-12-09 09:34 AM Editors redux
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I've been using UltraEdit for years and I've been very happy with it. However, a couple of developments are causing me to wonder whether there may be something better out there (with the exceptions of Windows Notepad, of course, with which no other editor on Earth could possibly compete).

1. I'm starting to make a move toward using Linux as my primary OS on all my home systems. For now, I run Linux systems as virtual machines under XP (and VMWare Workstation), but I'm working toward reversing that role, and eventually kicking the Windows habit altogether.

2. As I write scripts in various languages, I really like the syntax highlighting. However, UltraEdit has no way that I know of to export that highlighting to a file for documentation purposes. I really try to keep my printing to a minimum, so I'd like a way to export my final scripts to rtf or html files that could be pretty much universally read by others without an editor dependency.

That said, I'm looking for an editor with the following minimum features. Since there are a wide variety of editors used by the folks in this forum, I thought this the best place to ask.

A. Syntax highlighting (that supports or can be extented to support KiXtart).
B. Highlighted text may be exported somehow (copy HTML to clipboard, save as RTF file, etc.)
C. Windows and Linux program versions. Preferably with one license, if not free.
D. Smaller and less intrusive into the OS is good. Complete portability is better. (I'm very impressed with TextPadPro's ability to run completely from a floppy, if needed)
E. "Standard" features -- hex editing, columns, unlimited undo/redo, adjustable tab width display, etc.
F. Freeware/Careware/Open Software preferred. But inexpensive (especially with combined Windows / Linux licensing) OK.

Can anyone recommend something that would meet most or all of these requirements? Thanks.

NMM

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#153197 - 2005-12-09 09:39 AM Re: Editors redux
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hmm...
instead of saying anything about any editors...

nice to see you alive and well Mark!
it's like a year ago since you last posted.
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#153198 - 2005-12-09 01:28 PM Re: Editors redux
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Thanks. I feel bad for not contributing more... this board is a godsend for KiXtart and scripting in general at times. Lotta talent here! I've been pretty much wrapped around the axle all year. Things are improving, though.
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#153199 - 2005-12-09 05:50 PM Re: Editors redux
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Have you had a chance to look at EditPad Pro http://editpadpro.com ? He has a version that works in both Windows and LINUX.

HTH,

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#153200 - 2005-12-12 10:12 AM Re: Editors redux
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The one that stands out for you is VIM.

A. Syntax highlighting (that supports or can be extented to support KiXtart).
Yup - written by yours truly. The syntax file is out of date but I can't say I notice it in my daily use
B. Highlighted text may be exported somehow (copy HTML to clipboard, save as RTF file, etc.)
Save as HTML
C. Windows and Linux program versions. Preferably with one license, if not free.
Native versions for both OSs (and a few more), no charge
D. Smaller and less intrusive into the OS is good. Complete portability is better. (I'm very impressed with TextPadPro's ability to run completely from a floppy, if needed)
Small lightweight footprint - GUI version might be tricky on a floppy but see later
E. "Standard" features -- hex editing, columns, unlimited undo/redo, adjustable tab width display, etc.
Most of these, however I don't recall if hex editing has been built-in yet. VIM (and vi) use a smart-tag in the text which allows you to define many of the settings per-document. And you will wonder how you ever got along without features like "folds" and the ability to pass bits of the file through external filters
F. Freeware/Careware/Open Software preferred. But inexpensive (especially with combined Windows / Linux licensing) OK.
No charge, as already mentioned.

A couple of other pluses which apply specifically to you.

VI is the editor for Unix/Linux. It is available in every version of the OS that I have used. The other contender is "emacs" which has a devoted fan base of it's own.

VI has an enormously powerful command line which allows you to manipulate the file text very quickly and in surprising ways.

VI has a non-GUI console version which has a very small resource footprint and can be used when Windows or X is not running.

The editor will work with both DOS and Unix end-of-line styles and preserve whichever is in use when saving.

The best version IMO is VIM, which you can find at www.vim.org

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#153201 - 2005-12-22 09:42 AM Re: Editors redux
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Thank you for that well-thought out answer. (My apologies for my late reply.) I was leaning toward VIM anyway. I'm reasonably comfortable with VI already (at least to the point that I keep a cheat sheet posted all the time in my cube, since vi is my first choice while in UNIX).

I guess I'll have to *really* learn those commands and get more comfortable with regular expressions. I can see the power in doing that, but it is a steep learning curve at first.

Thanks for the advice. (And if you get a chance to update the syntax file, I wouldn't complain!)

NMM

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