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#150622 - 2005-10-26 09:12 PM WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Does the XPSP2 Firewall configuration function on a per profile or per computer level?

Thanks for the help!
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#150623 - 2005-10-26 09:28 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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As it sits in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\WindowsFirewall i'dd say per machine.
It's also controlable in GPO per machine.
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#150624 - 2005-10-26 09:29 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Yes.

Care to get more specific?

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#150625 - 2005-10-26 09:38 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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HKLM = ALL USERS on the System typically unless the software has been written specifically to allow the HKCU to take precedence.
 
Read_Modify_XPFirewall() - Reads or Modifies XP firewall settings
http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=135843

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#150626 - 2005-10-26 10:50 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Yes, it's a computer setting. Via GPO you can control this better. You can have different profiles depending on if the computer is on the same network as any of it's DC's or outside, and of course different settings for different computers in different OU's. So it's just really an administrative issue.
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#150627 - 2005-10-26 11:00 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Via GPO you can control this better




Yes, and that's what the UDF says as well

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This UDF is mainly for those who are unable to use GPO (preferred method).



 

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#150628 - 2005-10-26 11:28 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Sure, I can be more specific. My desktop support technician is managing a public access computer lab. We currently have 4 XPSP2 computer on that network with their firewalls turned off. The DS Tech began the process of reinstalling one of the existing W2K PCs to XPSP2. After the reinstallation he set the firewall setting to OFF via our administrative user account.

I had assumed this would set the firewall for all users logging onto the system, but my DS tech is telling me that's not the case. I wanted to verify with "the think tank" before persuing the subject further.

I have installed the XPSP2 ADM templates on my Win2000 GPO for making this modification centrally, but for some reason, on this domain, the template isn't populating the GPO with the proper options for Network Connections, which includes the mods for the XP Firewall.

I'm hoping it's just a slow AD replication issue, but it may go deeper. I have another network I manage where this GPO works just fine.

One interesting thing to note is that in the GPO for modifying the Firewall there are two Profile types: Domain and Standard. Intuitively, I assume this is the difference between a domain user and a local user.... (Anyone have any insight)

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#150629 - 2005-10-27 02:20 AM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Yes, from what I understand the Standard is for a computer when the user logs on locally instead of the Domain.

Internet Connection Firewall Feature Overview
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/icf.mspx

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Location-Aware Group Policy

ICF has a Group Policy that allows domain administrators to prevent ICF from running in their domain. This Group Policy is location-aware, which means that ICF may still be configured and run when the PC is not running on the network in which the policy was pushed down.

Here is an example scenario for this location-aware Group Policy:

• A mobile user enables and configures ICF on the wireless connection of a laptop. The user logs into the corporate domain, which applies the ICF Group Policy Object (GPO) to disable ICF from running. The user later undocks the laptop and goes to a wireless hotspot such as a café or airport and connects to this wireless network. Because ICF detects that it is no longer connected to the domain that enforced the policy, ICF will provide protection while on this hotspot network. When the user returns to the corporate network, ICF detects that its attached to the domain network that enforced the GPO and, consequently, shuts itself down.





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#150630 - 2005-10-27 09:40 AM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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I'dd just disable them both to be sure.
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#150631 - 2005-10-27 05:30 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Seems to me like you should go to the root of the problem instead, and find out why the GPO isn't hitting the clients. My first guess is that you haven't tied these clients subnet to a Site in the domain (well, providing that you've got the computer accounts where they should be of course). Second thing is to have a looksie in the event viewer and run gpresult.exe etc.

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#150632 - 2005-10-27 05:55 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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I'll try some of those recommendations. Thanks.

The thing that puzzles me is, why, after applying the new XPSP2 Admin Templates .ADM, doesn't the new GPO settings appear in my GPO..... ? I'll do some looking around.

Thanks again all for the suggestions!
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#150633 - 2005-10-27 06:50 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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!!!! Found the problem !!!!

Although, I've never experienced this before. Here it is.

In windows 2000, the default Admin Templates are CONF, INETRES, and SYSTEM.
I removed these default Templates and replaced them with the CONF, INETRES, and SYSTEM templates from a WinXP SP2 installed workstation.
After applying the change to my GPO, I go back into the Add/Remove Templates window, and see that the CONF and INETRES files are the same date and size of the new XP SP2 Templates, but SYSTEM is still the old size and file date.

Has anyone experienced this before? I'm going to grab another copy of SYSTEM from a different source and try that out. I'll let everyone know if that fixes it.

::EDIT::

Okay, this is getting freaky. It appears that, every time I access the GPO, the SYSTEM.adm file is replaced with the original Win2000 version. I've manually added it directly to the GPO policy folder on BOTH domain controllers and have watched the new file replicate properly. After I access the GPO, the SYSTEM.adm file is back to its Win2000 version.

Anyone hear of this before?
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#150634 - 2005-10-27 07:23 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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I think so... Microsoft has some articles of how to properly do this. Haven't done this stuff for a while now (no AD to play with now )

Anyways, make sure you're using the new Group Policy Management tool which will disable the built-in GPO edit you would normally see. Then there is information about how/why changes need to be done on the Server 2000 since it does not have/understand the newer values that will show on XP.

Sorry, but you'll have to do some Googling for the links yourself.

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#150635 - 2005-10-27 07:54 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Thanks NTDOC, I appreciate the leads. Some times, that what I need to find the answer.

You are correct, There is a problem with Win2000 not understanding the longer text descriptions of XP ADM templates. There is a KB article hotfix for this that I have applied to the domain.

I actually have been using the old editor all this time, so I'll have to look into the new editor and start using that.

Again, thanks for the leads.
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#150636 - 2005-10-27 09:09 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Here's the MS KB article.
The following entry in the [strings] section is too long and has been truncated error message

And here's the tool Doc's speaks about (I think), great tool, GPMC . Use it all the time.
Group Policy Management Console with Service Pack 1

Just an FYI in case someone is searching for it.
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#150637 - 2005-10-27 11:57 PM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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Why would you want to use Windows 2000 for GPOs? XP is a minimum req for GPMC.
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#150638 - 2005-10-28 12:06 AM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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I have Win2000 Active Directory servers, but my client workstation is XP.
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#150639 - 2005-10-28 12:12 AM Re: WindowsXP SP2 Firewall Question
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So then use XP and the GPMC.
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