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#147997 - 2005-09-16 06:01 PM Error tokenizing script on win95
DaRattMan Offline
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Are there known issues with tokenizing a script file on Windows 95?


Attempting:

wkix32 /t MyFile.Kix

On a windows 95 machine is causing the following error:

Title: >>> KiXtart 2001 <<<
Text: ERROR : Failed to derive key from hash
Error : (0x80090010/2146893808)!
Script: C:\Testing\MyFile.kix
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#147998 - 2005-09-16 06:10 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
Richard H. Administrator Offline
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Ouch! I guess the API used to generate the encryption key / hash is not supported on Win9x.

If you generate the tokenised file on another system will it run ok on Win9x?
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#147999 - 2005-09-16 06:23 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
DaRattMan Offline
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Nope...
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#148000 - 2005-09-16 06:24 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
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I'm going to move this thread to Beta ... will be curious to read everyone's reaction to this ...
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#148001 - 2005-09-16 07:12 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
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Well I know that Ruud has strived to maintain Windows 9x compliance probably more so than most. However Windows 9x was never really designed for secure networking and was kludged together to even really work as well as it did on a network. NT4 was the desktop and server of choice in a networking environment.

Maybe it's time that Ruud finally give up further support for Windows 9x and leave KiX 4.23 as the last version to support WINDOWS 9x and be done with it just as Microsoft has abandoned it.
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#148002 - 2005-09-16 08:33 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
bstyles Offline
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We'd all like to see 95 go away.

I think Ruud just needs to make a decision --

1) to continue to support it completely.
2) to partially support it (i.e. tokenized files not supported on all but 95)
3) to drop support for 95 completely.

Whatever the solution, it needs to be documented.
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#148003 - 2005-09-16 08:56 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
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Hi Brian,

Nice to see you around. What happened to your logon name? I know this is not your 6th post here

Hope you're doing well and the business at ScriptLogic is doing well too. Take care.
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#148004 - 2005-09-17 12:47 AM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
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well, not sure am I off topic or who but back to the first thing.
he is using old build.

daRattman, what version of kix you got there?
also, that windows box, check out what's it shell32.dll version.
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#148005 - 2005-09-19 11:58 AM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
Ruud van Velsen Moderator Offline
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Thanks for the report. I have repro'd the issue and found the cause. It's (no surprise there) a Win95 quirk. I have a fix, but need to look at the effect that may have on the other platforms...

Ruud
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#148006 - 2005-09-19 05:58 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
Howard Bullock Offline
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Should you even be concerned with Win95? Just put a note in the support section of the docs.
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#148007 - 2005-09-19 07:40 PM Re: Error tokenizing script on win95
Ruud van Velsen Moderator Offline
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Good point, and I agree we should not spend too much time with Win95 at all. However, this seems like a doable fix (i.e.: one that does not take a lot of time and one that does not affect the other platforms) so I'll give it a try.

Ruud
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