The reason I need this is two-fold, 1) I like to use these little 'projects' that management throw at me to learn KiX and KiXforms better. 2) As we are in a school, the desktop and start menus must be as simple as possible. As we have various different suites of IT systems for different tasks, the start menu must contain everything in it, which makes it huge. Therefore we developed a HTML-based background that creates a window and houses specific icons in it. For example in a Maths' suite of PCs, it houses the specific Maths icons that would be found in the start menu. As Admins it means we don't have to spend countless hours customising desktops for each suite when the program we have does it for us - however management decided that this application (background) is too slow and increases 'start' time (the time when you can actually USE the computer) and in a new 'give them faster logons' idea, they decided to find a faster alternative. I decided to look at KiX as I've used it for various other projects and it works wonderfully. KiXforms to me is a new thing, I've only created 1 thing with it which is a 'change password' tool so teachers can change a student password from the desktop without having to grant them the MMC (which is good). As the start menu is huge (and we don't want to copy chunks of start menu at logon), we wanted something that would display a subset of icons in a predefined window (not traditional desktop icons). Is that any clearer? I know it sounds like an odd thing to want to build but my boss does like to throw challenges at me and I'd rather have a go at it than admit defeat. I could do it in VB but it's been years since I looked at VB and I'd rather not go back there.