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#138693 - 2005-04-26 08:37 AM Web Editor - OT
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This is an interesting web editor..

http://nvu.com/

worth a look, there is a Windows, Mac, and LINUX version available.

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#138694 - 2005-04-26 10:07 AM Re: Web Editor - OT
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Yeah worth a look I suppose, but mighty big words comparing it to Dreamweaver. Hard to believe a 6.5MB non-release version of software could be as capable as a 180MB program that has been around for years with continuous development.

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Nvu
Finally! A complete Web Authoring System for Linux Desktop users as well as Microsoft Windows and Macintosh users to rival programs like FrontPage and Dreamweaver.
Nvu (pronounced N-view, for a "new view") makes managing a web site a snap. Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no technical expertise or knowledge of HTML.





Thanks for the link Kent.



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#138695 - 2005-05-03 12:23 AM Re: Web Editor - OT
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I've always wondered why do these editors suck so much. About the only good thing about them is the ftp site manager. They simply are not simple enough to make it reasonable not to learn some html and css by yourself and do the frigging code yourself. Oh yeah, the tag reference thing in DW is handy too. And the compability checker. Well, DW does have some features that are useful, but the core functionality itself is shoddy at best. Not easy at all.

I want to drag images from a folder to a html page and place them anywhere I want, not just center, left or right. The editor should generate a table or some css code to place the image where I want it to be. Adding frames should be a snap, but noo, instead you have to select some stupid template and try to make it work for you. And the interface is horrible and clunky and hard to use.

All this moaning is mainly about Dreamweaver. Is there a good editor in existence even? Anybody have any tips?

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#138696 - 2005-05-03 01:21 AM Re: Web Editor - OT
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Well for what you're looking for I have not seen an editor that can do that. As for DreamWeaver complaints, well if you haven't noticed the price tag, it's not geared towards the noobie Web site makers and the more advanced users would not purchase it either if they could not hand code with it as well as do the other things it does.
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#138697 - 2005-05-03 03:00 PM Re: Web Editor - OT
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FrontPage is pretty good about drag-n-drop, but adds so much code bloat it is not even funny.

I have heard interesting things about Netobjects.. If you really want "true" drag and drop and be able to place objects such as pictures at will, you should check into IMS Web Dwarf.

HTH,

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#138698 - 2005-05-04 02:08 AM Re: Web Editor - OT
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Some of the editors can actually place the image exactly where you want it. However, it helps to understand how web pages are being generated and that pixel-level precision is not easy to come by.
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#138699 - 2005-05-04 05:23 PM Re: Web Editor - OT
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dhtml can deal easily with positioning and clearly many webeditors simply lack understanding of it.
or css, in that matter.

they are still poorly developed craps from the first generation of editors that were just quickly put together to help noobies do something little easier.
dreamfeaver is not any different.
it has survived mainly because of it's name and nice price tag saying it has some quality in it.

it's odd to admit, but indeed frontpage is the nicest thing I've seen this far in this software genre.
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#138700 - 2005-05-04 06:28 PM Re: Web Editor - OT
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Jooel - with you being the KiXGolf "Master" I am very surprised.

While FrontPage is easy to use - with building tables, etc. it adds entirely too much unneeded code.

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