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#119427 - 2004-05-12 07:18 PM AD - Organziation UNIT
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hmm.

Lets say you have 20000 employees. 10k employees reside on the east coast and the other 10k is on the west coast.
1. Would you feel you need a seperate OU for each coast?
2. What would be the real benifit of having a seperate OU for each cost?

Each coast is unique and are engineers.

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#119428 - 2004-05-12 07:37 PM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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lol.
I would have 2 separate AD's for them!

I think you can spare an OU
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#119429 - 2004-05-12 07:42 PM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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Sounds like an AD-101 school project to me.
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#119430 - 2004-05-12 07:52 PM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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hmm.. tell me why? Beside delegating work to other administrators on the east and west coast.

What will be gained for having two OU's instead of one.

Thanks.

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#119431 - 2004-05-12 08:02 PM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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it all depends on your logic and needs

there could be logon hours
IT management
business logical groupings


The point of OU is a way to group and manage your structure with a logic that you define.

My OU structure is location based (city) then by department

It could have been the other way around, but my company has location based resources (servers printers, etc) so location then department was determined to be most efficient.

with 20000 users, I'd go with the forest with 2 domain (or more) model as mentioned before
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#119432 - 2004-05-12 08:17 PM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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Having 50,000+ users and multiple Domains, I on the other hand would not use multiple domains unless I really had to. ACL group permissions with multiple domains can be a pain.

You can have 20 OUs and group to your heart content like Radimus says. Each OU can have it own Administrator and GPO structure if wanted.


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#119433 - 2004-05-12 08:44 PM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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We have OUs based upon company (9 separate OUs or Companies) in the Global Catalog. Like said before, you can then base perms, policy etc. within each easier. The other side of this is that LDAP is a bit more interesting.

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#119434 - 2004-05-13 02:10 AM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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This is some good info guys.. thxs.

I have a few questions.. Forgive me cause I don't have an AD enviroment.

1. If we had one OU, for both coast, can I still run my own kixtart scripts for the west only(this is the coast i administer)? How can I achieve this?

2. Can I push my own policy with only for west coast only with just one OU for both coast?

I'm just trying to get some ammunition to justify a the benefits of having a seperate OU for both west and east coast.

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#119435 - 2004-05-13 02:23 AM Re: AD - Organziation UNIT
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If you have no legacy clients, you can run GPO scripts assigned to specific OUs. If you have to support legacy, you have to either get a little creative with legacy NetLogon scripts or assing different scripts in the users' profiles.

AD is very flexible. You can apply policies to groups by ACL but it is a lot easier to manage by OU.
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