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#115565 - 2004-03-11 05:53 PM Re: Spybot S&D
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If only Ad-Aware had the command line funtionalities to run it in the background...Something like Rad does above.

The auto update of S&D is handy as well. Dont know of a way to make Ad-Aware auto update.

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#115566 - 2004-03-13 02:26 AM Re: Spybot S&D
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An interesting article, but it leads me to conclude the author ran the programs in their default configurations. That may be a fair test of newbie-usefulness, but doesn't begin to measure the full functionality of the programs, especially Spybot. The fact he wasn't able to find the "select all" option in Spybot's recovery console says for sure he was using the default (beginner) mode and not the advanced mode (it's not an option in default mode to help prevent disaster). And just reporting number of items found by one but not the other without analyzing what they represent in detail is misleading. For instance, Adaware is big on cookie checks, while Spybot doesn't flag as many cookies as potential threats, so I'd guess that might be the preponderance of the differences. The author suggests that himself by noting that 195 of the 293 items "missed" by Spybot but found by Adaware were files, and that "many of the files found were cookies". And again, more thorough checks can be enabled in Spybot's advanced mode. And there's no mention of the considerable arsenal of tools included with Spybot (it even has a process viewer and killer!), not to mention its Immunize and BHO options to help prevent a lot of undesirables from installing in the first place.

When it comes to removing actual spyware programs (not just cookies), my experience has been that Spybot consistently finds and removes more than Adaware does, though neither is perfect. Don't misunderstand, I like and use both programs. When called on to help out friends figure out why their computer has gotten so slow, I often run both. (It's amazing how much #$%& some people manage to acquire!). But if I could only choose one, it would be Spybot, with no hesitation and no regrets.

In a work environment, Rad's point about cost is valid, and not a small thing. While Adaware Standard is free for personal use, any commercial use requires a paid license. Spybot is free to all, though a donation would certainly be appreciated. Finally, with reference to the original focus of this thread, Spybot has better deployment options in a networked environment.

Joe

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#115567 - 2004-03-13 04:18 PM Re: Spybot S&D
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well...
ad-aware is not free at all.
"standard" actually is a cripled version and without it's advanced features I found just useless to me.

in all, spyware removal software is usefull and nice but when it goes to bigger corps, they should be only used for investigation.
spyware can't get in if your proxy&firewall are properly configured.
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#115568 - 2004-03-13 06:36 PM Re: Spybot S&D
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I like and use Spybot S&D but have to wonder how one would do the updates in a mass deployment. So far I cannot get Spybot to use my M$Proxy2 without installing the MSPClient. I must confess that I have not put much time into it.

Has anyone been able to get it going?

Better still, has anyone been able to setup their own mirror update site internally and gotten Spybot to look to it for updates?
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#115569 - 2004-03-13 10:52 PM Re: Spybot S&D
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I would think it's just matter of DNS records...
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#115570 - 2004-03-14 12:56 AM Re: Spybot S&D
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I just DL the includes and push them just like an AV update...

Or simply make a client bat file that will execute the includes silently from a share then start Spybot (or logon script)

"\\server\SpybotSD\spybotsd_tools.exe" /S
"\\server\SpybotSD\spybotsd_includes.exe" /S

(the '/S' has to be capitilized... took me forever to find it)


Edited by Radimus (2004-03-14 12:59 AM)
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