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#108492 - 2003-11-20 03:13 PM Whats your latest and greatest
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Wondered if I could do a quick, quick survey ... how are the wkstns that you are deploying "today" configured in terms of: Code: CPU: (make/speed) RAM: (mb) DISK: (gb) MOUSE: (optical vs wired) CDROM: (CD/DVD)
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#108493 - 2003-11-20 03:17 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Radimus Radimus Moderator Registered: 2000-01-06 Posts: 5187 Loc: Tampa, FL	P4 2.2g - 2.6g 256-512mb ram 10-40gb drives CD (no DVD or burners) wired mouse... still with the fuzzy balls _________________________ How to ask questions the smart way <-----------> Before you ask
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#108494 - 2003-11-20 03:20 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4563 Loc: USA	CPU: Dell GX270/P4 2.6GHz RAM: 256MB DISK: 120GB MOUSE: MSWheel Mouse CDROM: CDRW This is our corporate spec, but then they tell us to lock them down, and to only use terminal software. So basically these are way over powered typewriters.
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#108495 - 2003-11-20 03:24 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Ja, I'm also trying the calculate the drop-off point for DISK for example, why get an 40gb when you can get 80gb or a 120gb for "a few dollars more". At what point (in terms of size) does the price start to matter.
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#108496 - 2003-11-20 03:47 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	hmm... I would instead drop Pentium-prosessors and rely on faster ones... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#108497 - 2003-11-20 03:51 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	well, could also give my "data" CPU: 2,6GHz-2,8GHz P4 RAM: 512M DISK: 60-80G MOUSE: optical and wired CDROM: DVD or CDRW/DVD or... for what I wish it could be: CPU: Athlon 64 FX RAM: 1G DISK: 2x36G SCSI RAID-0 MOUSE: optical desktop CDROM: CDRW/DVD _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#108498 - 2003-11-20 03:53 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Radimus Radimus Moderator Registered: 2000-01-06 Posts: 5187 Loc: Tampa, FL	we have 40gb drives, and use less than 5gb of it. Unless you have a need for the bigger drive, save the dollars and invest in extra RAM. I'd buy 10gb drives now, but they aren't on the Dell/Compaq spec anymore... _________________________ How to ask questions the smart way <-----------> Before you ask
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#108499 - 2003-11-20 04:09 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Allen Allen KiX Supporter Registered: 2003-04-19 Posts: 4563 Loc: USA	We have two options, neither make any sense for our environment... 80GB (ATA) or 120GB (SATA). The price difference is less than $20. And supposedly the SATA drives are faster, but to tell the truth, I can't tell any difference. Lonk, have you actually used any of the new Athlons? I've been considering purchasing one for home sometime early next year.
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#108500 - 2003-11-20 04:17 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Rad - lol - that is exactly what I just told my superior around here (the head guru) ... save the $'s and invest in more RAM. We currently have 8gb drives and use bearly 4 gb. We have a user base of approx. 10,000 wkstns so sure, an extra 10 or 20 dollars here and there does add up. But we have to think to future as well. Something else - our "client" has suggested FLOPPY-LESS systems and I am giving a little bit of push-back on that - anybody running floppy-less systems out there ? -Shawn
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#108501 - 2003-11-20 04:21 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Wizard Wizard Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2000-12-05 Posts: 264 Loc: Bristol, England	If you run floppy-less, then you must have a CDROM drive. You need some way to get the machines onto the network when it is dead - unless you have a good WOL system.! Things like ERD Commander (CD) are very good. _________________________ Wizard There's no place like 127.0.0.1 vb \| kix \| batch \| html \| cfm \| js \| english
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#108502 - 2003-11-20 04:35 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	hmmm, point taken. but tbh - i can't imagine working on a floppy-less system. That would be absolutely unbearable to my mind. But then again, I'm not a customer service rep either - But in terms of technicians supporting these machines, no floppy - ouch.
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#108503 - 2003-11-20 04:47 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Radimus Radimus Moderator Registered: 2000-01-06 Posts: 5187 Loc: Tampa, FL	if they are floppy, no problem... as USB Keys are the solution, and they are bootable _________________________ How to ask questions the smart way <-----------> Before you ask
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#108504 - 2003-11-20 05:26 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Jack Lothian Jack Lothian MM club member Registered: 1999-10-22 Posts: 1169 Loc: Ottawa,Ontario, Canada	CPU: x86 Family 15 Model 1 Stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~1495 Mhz RAM: 512mb DISK: 37.2gb MOUSE: wired MSWheel CDROM: CD/RW My machine is about a year old so I guess I am an average workstation. The latest specs, I think call for a P4-2000Mz with everything else the same. We need lots of both RAM & disk space but most of our work is mathematical/techical. We are big users of SAS which needs lots of resources. Edited by Jack Lothian (2003-11-20 05:29 PM) _________________________ Jack
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#108505 - 2003-11-20 05:30 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Shawn Shawn Administrator Registered: 1999-08-13 Posts: 8611	Thanks Jack. The big thing that worries me are the JAVA apps. We got a couple right now (SAPGUI, etc) and the memory footprint of these things scares the hell out of me. Especially since we will be installing JAVA WebStart which makes these JAVA apps available on the fly and downloadable from a server - yikes.
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#108506 - 2003-11-20 05:52 PM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Jack Lothian Jack Lothian MM club member Registered: 1999-10-22 Posts: 1169 Loc: Ottawa,Ontario, Canada	Shawn, I work at Statcan & we got stuff like this (I think our new time reporting system uses this technique) but it is over my head. Our central IT development unit implements this stuff. I doubt the majority of our IT department understands this stuff. I oversee a lot of SAS development but my group has almost no interaction with this type of stuff. Statcan does have over 5,000 workstations though & we are all using it. I don't think we have any workstations with less than 256MB & most have 512MB & a small percentage have more. 40GB drives have been a standard here for a couple of years & to my knowledge the specs for this will not be changing this year. The thing I notice about the Time reporting system is how slow it starts up compared to my other apps but once up it runs fine even with Outlook, SAS, Excel, & word open. _________________________ Jack
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#108507 - 2003-11-21 03:41 AM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
krabourn krabourn Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2000-12-11 Posts: 244 Loc: San Antonio, Texas, USA	Well, here is my first post on the new board. Here are our normal corporate specifications. PIV 2.66 Ghz 512 MB SDRAM 40GB ATA/100 EIDE Intel Extreme Graphics 2 8X AGP 16MB Shared Memory SoundMAX Digital Audio NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet 1 Serial, 1 Parrallel 6 USB 48X CDROM 3.5 Floppy MS Optical Mouse Monitor 17" - 16" Viewable 22" - 20" Viewable Of course most of the ones I run into have a bigger monitor. _________________________ Kelly
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#108508 - 2003-11-21 03:45 AM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
krabourn krabourn Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2000-12-11 Posts: 244 Loc: San Antonio, Texas, USA	Don't you love SAPGUI? We are heavy into JAVA apps. They are always looking for a way to move a program into the browser. I hate all the different version of JAVA being used. IT seems like there is always some sort of problem. _________________________ Kelly
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#108509 - 2003-11-21 03:48 AM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
krabourn krabourn Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2000-12-11 Posts: 244 Loc: San Antonio, Texas, USA	How do you make a bootable W2K or even XP bootable USB device. I have seen Windows ME documentation, but we don't allow that anywhere near the network. _________________________ Kelly
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#108510 - 2003-11-21 07:54 AM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	alpo, no. haven't had a change to check on those but hope that starting of next year makes my budget let me buy at least one for testing (that is on my desk) I know that I don't want the normal athlon 64 processor. I want that FX. but, I always want the best what comes to floppyless, sure I have those. one of my server's was floppyless too. no need for floppy... I think last time I used floppy when I had to find some old driver to some really old modem or something. but, if I could decide, everyone would have IDE-zip drive's around the world instead of floppy and CDROM. damn, I hate the complexity of RAM usage of cdrw and the complexity there is when you try to teach it to your users. what comes to management, CD's are the easiest and those are the only media with network I use. _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#108511 - 2003-11-21 10:17 AM Re: Whats your latest and greatest
masken masken MM club member Registered: 2000-11-27 Posts: 1222 Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden	I've got 2 standard PC's here, the basic one: Celeron ~ 2GHz 256mb 20-40Gb logitech ball-mice CD-rom The other one's a P4 with a faster HD and a better gfx card (basic one's got a mobo with everything built-in - Gigabyte). Both is standard PC's from a manufacturer that makes PC's with standard PC components. That's the most important thing for me - to be able to fix spair parts fast etc. I buy our standard PC's with WinXP Pro OEM for about ~ €/$ 350. _________________________ The tart is out there
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