We are using the Cisco client, but version 3.3.6 which doesn't do the pre-logon tunnel. We now are testing a new version 4.? that fixes all our woes because it integrates with the MSGina (CTRL-ALT-DEL screen) allowing the tunnel to be established prior to the login.

Until it passes internal quality control testing and is pushed out to existing users, I seem to be stuck. We've had a layoff and management is requiring all remote users to change their password who are now set to never expire...and so here we are at my delima. How to get that cached password sync'd. [Frown]

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