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#103010 - 2003-07-17 08:48 AM INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Dear,

We receive a message about possible something interesting for some of the
readers.

It handles about the first book about our great scripting language KiXtart.

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For more information see: http://www.kixscripts.com/book/

greetings.

btw: possible already posting same issue.
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#103011 - 2003-07-17 10:57 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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oh, mca woke up.
indeed it might be some of interest, but I'd like to have someone of us have a review of it.

after all, it has a price tag but they don't reviel any part of it.

[ 17. July 2003, 10:57: Message edited by: Lonkero ]
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#103012 - 2003-07-17 11:04 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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NICE !

The first book dedicated purely to KiX...

Remember Elvis2000 (IIRC this was his login name) had a book written in which there was at least one chapter dedicated to KiXtart ?

Anyone ever had a chance to look at that ?

will try to find the link ..
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#103013 - 2003-07-17 11:08 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Jesse Torres was his name..

here one post he mentioned his book : click me

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#103014 - 2003-07-17 11:22 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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oh, btw...
would like to see hard-cover version of this.
could buy one for my co-worker but if it's in electrical form I rather skip the idea.
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#103015 - 2003-07-18 12:06 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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So guys,

We were just busy with a question for kdyer.
At the same moment we receive a mail about this book, because we suppose
that in Chapter 11 some third party tools for kixtart had find a place.

quote:

Chapter 11: Troubleshooting
This last chapter covers error handling, creating your own log file, and using KiXtart's log file. It explains KiXtart's debugging capabilities and identifies other tools for debugging KiXtart scripts. This chapter lists common problems with suggestions for avoiding them. It discusses the limitations imposed by Windows security, along with third party tools available to help deal with security issues you may encounter. Finally, it identifies a handful of documented problems.
Also we know that Ruud van Velsen did review this book also.
greetings.

btw: we are nearly sleep at the moment. On the priorities are a little bit different.
Just different by personal circumstances.

btw: we don't have any commercial interests to promote this book.
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#103016 - 2003-07-18 12:09 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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When we take a look at

KiXtart book selling.

it looks like that an electronic version is available. Size about 5 MB.
greetings.
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#103017 - 2003-07-18 12:11 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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I believe you have no personal profit here [Wink]

anyway, the book is not that expensive with their special offer and it indeed is first KiXbook.

anyway, their talk that documentation is totally lacking is not fully true.
sure we have had documentation in electrical form (just like this book) even though it might not have been quite as complete.

anyway, felt weird that couldn't contact bobbie directly with some questions.
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#103018 - 2003-07-18 12:12 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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mca, it is only shipped in downloadable format.
that is the stuff you buy.
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#103019 - 2003-07-18 12:21 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Will wait for the hardcover (If i decide to buy)

Plenty of reference in electronical form elsewhere [Wink]
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#103020 - 2003-07-18 12:33 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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I dunno. $35.00 for an e-book seems just a bit pricey to me.

Like the rest of you, I haven't seen the text or the layout, so I can't comment on the quality of the book. But the most expensive part of any book is publishing expenses; printing , editing , distribution , advertising, etc... With the author actually getting little of the 'profit'. very similar to the music industry.

An e-book however, is just a bit different. DRM may be an issue.

of course, I may be completely wrong [Confused]

I know there is a 'coupon' on kixscripts site for a discount, but...
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#103021 - 2003-07-17 01:03 PM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Dear,

Possible that they can put an example chapter on their site to get an impression of it.
Also we are missing how many pages this book includes.
greetings.
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#103022 - 2003-07-17 01:05 PM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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And who the Author is ... can hardly read .... Rob Kelly ?

[edit: Nah, it's Bob ! Should've known the name somehow [Smile] ]

[ 17. July 2003, 13:11: Message edited by: Jochen ]
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#103023 - 2003-07-17 02:30 PM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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I like this book because its the Start to Finish guide to Kixtart Scripting ... I'm really good at starting scripts but have a real tough time finishing them, so have much to learn [Wink]

Bob Kelly is the fellow that works with Stevie(B) at iTripoli and the Kixscripts editor (Kixscripts.com) ... If memory serves, Bob also owns and operates the appdeploy.com website. An extremely popular website from what I understand.

So I would say the credentials are there. Nice guy too, have chatted in the past.

-Shawn

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#103024 - 2003-07-17 02:58 PM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Shawn, when can we expect the "Ultimate Guide to KixForms" [Smile]
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#103025 - 2003-07-18 12:25 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Just to clarify:
  • Tech edited by Ruud
  • IIRC The length is somewhere between 400-450 pages
  • List is $35.. real price is ~$25
  • A printed version is in the works
  • Bob is quite a good chap...known him a long time
  • This is not an iTripoli endeavor i.e. I don't make a cent [Frown]
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#103026 - 2003-07-18 12:46 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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oh, his own thing?
have you read the book?
what does it mean "start to finish"?

is it like all the kixtart parts covered or is it like "ultimate source for even kixtart diehard"?
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#103027 - 2003-07-18 12:50 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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I've only read a couple of chapters during the writing cycle. I purchased a copy but haven't read it yet.

So, the short answer is, I don't really know.
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#103028 - 2003-07-21 12:05 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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I think that everyone who's been a member here for more than 2 years and that has more than 300 posts should recieve a free copy [Big Grin]

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#103029 - 2003-07-21 04:21 AM Re: INFO: the ultimate guide to KiXtart. First book available on the subject
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Well, I think the post requirement should be exactly 98...no more...no less.
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