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#102324 - 2003-06-24 04:17 PM win98 or kixtart bug?
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I wrote a logon script for a network I maintain using kixtart - it's great. i love it. lets me do all sorts of things that make Windows network management more barable.. I seem to have encountered a bug or something with two of our client PCs. The network is a horrible mix of 95/98/NT/2k/XP and the logon script works great for everyone aside from 2 people on Windows 98. Both PCs are patched to the latest as per Windows Update, and they get an error 67 (can't resolve host? hmm?) when trying to map @HOMESHR to the H drive. I set both of them on batch scripts that do net use cmds specifically for them, and that works fine. that's what leads me to believe it could be a kixtart bug, or a bug in windows.

anyone have experience with this? i'm using Kix 4.21 with the RPC services on both of my domain controllers. it's a 250 PC network, no WAN or layer 2 segmenting or anything.. here's the code snippet:
code:
 if (@HOMESHR)
	USE H: /delete
	USE H: @HOMESHR
	if ((@error <> 0) and (@error <> 85) and (@error <> 1202))
		$return = messagebox("Error connecting to the H: drive. Error code: @error", 4103);
        else ? " ÃÄ H: (" @HOMESHR ")"
	endif
else ? " ÃÄ H: (no home share set)"
endif

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#102325 - 2003-06-24 04:23 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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Are there "spaces" in the @HOMESHR path? IF so, try adding ""'s around the macro.

[ 24. June 2003, 16:37: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]
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#102326 - 2003-06-24 04:36 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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no spaces [Frown]

I did notice that these 2 users have longer usernames than anyone else, one at 18chars the other at 20chars

The path they mount appears to be short, too:
\\svr-home\firstname.lastname$
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#102327 - 2003-06-24 04:39 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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You have hit some netbios limitation I think.

See the FAQ:
http://www.kixtart.org/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=000072
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#102328 - 2003-06-24 05:04 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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And '$' need to be doubled up, this is documented in the KiXtart Manual.
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#102329 - 2003-06-26 09:52 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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sealeopard: I am using @HOMESHR as kix apparently puts the home path in there. would i do this?

@HOMESHR = @HOMESHR + "$";
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#102330 - 2003-06-26 10:09 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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No, you would not do that. The home share property of the account should already have the "$" on it if the users share is a hidden share (good practice).

The @homeshr macro will return the contents on the account home directory path property including the "$" if it exists.
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#102331 - 2003-06-26 10:18 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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It's not a case of would or should... you cannot assign anything to a macro!

@HOMESHR is a macro, so trying to assign it like it was a var will not work.
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#102332 - 2003-06-27 08:18 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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Ah, ok I see that now. I've got 3 people on win98 all having the same problem now, and some people on here said it was a netbios limitation.. that seemed likely with the first 2 users (one has a 19char username, the other 20char) but the 3rd is a short one. so i figured i'd try the other suggestion from sealeapord - which was to double up the $ (i'm assuming that $ is some reserved item in kix and needs to be escaped or something)

it's just odd that these 3 people can't get it and the rest are fine..
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#102333 - 2003-06-27 08:27 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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quote:
i'm assuming that $ is some reserved item in kix and needs to be escaped or something
See the KiXtart Manual v4.21, page 25 and the SETOPTION() function.
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#102334 - 2003-06-28 01:26 AM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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there still needs to be something really primitive different for these 3 users to the rest.

can't tell you where to start examining but they surely have something different.
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#102335 - 2003-06-28 03:00 AM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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cb, I cannot duplicate your problem. My test domain is an NT4 server with an XP and a 98 client. I created a share that was hidden and over 21 chars long and YOUR code still worked on the 98 machine. All servers and workstations are fully up to date. What protocols do you run on the 9x computers? TCP/IP I hope? Oh, and for what it's worth the @Homeshr command does not needs the RPC service. I assume you need it for other commands but it was mentioned above in this post so I figured I'd cover it.
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#102336 - 2003-06-28 03:10 AM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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No one said that the three computers with problems were up to date. cb6040 should have one of the problem users logon to a working computer to see if the problem follows the user or if the problem is limited to just those few computers.
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#102337 - 2003-06-28 04:00 AM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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what about the initial "both wksta's are patched with windows update"?
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#102338 - 2003-06-28 04:33 AM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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Well maybe...I don't really trust Windows update for all those shell and basic networking updates.

Ok...I'm wrong maybe...

Let's see what happens when the the failing user logs on elsewhere and a working user logs on at the bad computers.

[ 28. June 2003, 04:33: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]
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#102339 - 2003-06-29 02:02 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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Have you considered something like...

Use H: "\\server\@userid$$"
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#102340 - 2003-06-29 05:18 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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Well, keeping with the new way of no vars (macros) in strings...
code:
Use H: '\\server\'+@UserID+'$$'
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#102341 - 2003-07-01 02:51 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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Well, as much as i'd like to try all those, people typically have the same home folder path as their username, but some people share common home folders.. I'll try that to see if that gets it working - but i dont think i can use that as a workable solution.. thanks for the help so far, by the way [Smile]
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#102342 - 2003-07-01 03:45 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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You do know that a single resource can be used for multiple (different) network resources? Meaning, the folder that is common to multiple users could have multiple shares (one for each user).
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#102343 - 2003-07-01 03:47 PM Re: win98 or kixtart bug?
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I would really standardize a HOME folder as a personal folder with ACLs for just that person. If multiple people need access to the same share then they should get a dedicated share with a meaningful name, e.g. Admin or Accounting.
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