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#100247 - 2003-04-09 12:44 AM @PRIV in Kix 4.20
mgrosschedl mgrosschedl Fresh Scripter Registered: 2003-04-08 Posts: 5	Hello, I'm using @PRIV in my logon script, but the result of this is - in my opinion - not ok! It doesn't matter which local permissions are set (OS = XP, 9x, or NT), the result is all the time "USER". Do any of you have an idea ?? Thanks, Michael
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#100248 - 2003-04-08 01:03 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Will Hetrick Will Hetrick Hey THIS is FUN Registered: 2001-10-02 Posts: 320 Loc: Harrisburg, PA USA	I had problems with this till someone told me that KIX caches the groups you are contained in. If you run from a dos prompt kix32.exe /f, this will refresh the tokens in the registry. Then run your login script and see if @priv works. _________________________ You have at least 2 choices. Each choice changes your destiny. Choose wisely!
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#100249 - 2003-04-08 01:05 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	M, did the behavior change in opposite to previous versions ? (I assume that this could be the case as you stated a version in your title) IIRC there was one change to @priv regarding SYSTEM User (returns admin on system account) in one of the last releases but can't find that documented at the moment No more clues, sorry ... _________________________
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#100250 - 2003-04-08 01:06 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Oh yeah ! The cache !!! try and run kix32 with /f {edit : as Will stated correctly earlier I really should start to read the whole reply } [ 08. April 2003, 13:08: Message edited by: jpols ] _________________________
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#100251 - 2003-04-08 02:38 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
mgrosschedl mgrosschedl Fresh Scripter Registered: 2003-04-08 Posts: 5	I also tried kix32.exe /f; with the same "bad" result. Any other idea ??? PS.: In older kix-versions (eg. 3.63)I never used @priv!
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#100252 - 2003-04-08 02:46 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	So then ... there are as far as I know only 3 possibilities : Guest, User and Admin Does any of the tested accounts belong to at least the local administrator group ? _________________________
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#100253 - 2003-04-08 02:48 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Radimus Radimus Moderator Registered: 2000-01-06 Posts: 5187 Loc: Tampa, FL	the older version only verifies domain priv, has this changed on the newer version. I am local admin on all the PCs at my site, but I'm not Domain Admin... @priv for me is always USER _________________________ How to ask questions the smart way <-----------> Before you ask
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#100254 - 2003-04-08 02:49 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	dang ! tested here (on NT Workstation) and it returned User for my account which is definetly not the case (On my NoteBook ((W2K)) it returns Admin as expected) _________________________
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#100255 - 2003-04-08 02:51 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Rad, older version ? Wait lemme test with RC2 ... It has not changed ! I am only local admin and not domain admin (Thank God for that) here in our admin domain Seems to be that the domain context is evaluated (still in 4.21 RC2) Questions: What is better? Should it be changed? Can we have that stated in the manual? How can we manage to gain peace on earth ? [ 08. April 2003, 15:10: Message edited by: jpols ] _________________________
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#100256 - 2003-04-08 03:33 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
mgrosschedl mgrosschedl Fresh Scripter Registered: 2003-04-08 Posts: 5	Im local Admin on my workstation, but the result of @priv is always USER. I think, the problem is not only on my site !!??
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#100257 - 2003-04-08 03:42 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Yes Michael, thats correct ... maybe someone should move this thread to Beta forum to get Ruuds attention _________________________
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#100258 - 2003-04-08 04:03 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Sealeopard Sealeopard KiX Master Registered: 2001-04-25 Posts: 11165 Loc: Boston, MA, USA	IIRC, the @PRIV evaluates the domain rights first. Thus a domain user that is a local administrator should be @PRIV='USER'. For more granularity you can always evaluate the INGROUP(@WKSTA+'\Administrators') _________________________ There are two types of vessels, submarines and targets.
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#100259 - 2003-04-08 05:08 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
mgrosschedl mgrosschedl Fresh Scripter Registered: 2003-04-08 Posts: 5	INGROUP(@WKSTA+'\Administrators') gives me the expected result! Thanks a lot! M
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#100260 - 2003-04-08 07:58 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Sure it does ... But still this behavior of @priv was not what I'd have expected Any thoughts on possible changes / or documentation needs ? _________________________
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#100261 - 2003-04-08 09:29 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Lonkero Lonkero KiX Master Guru Registered: 2001-06-05 Posts: 22346 Loc: OK	discussed zillion times. think it's obvious what it returns... anyway, I as one am really wanting a change in this. as per all kixtart macro'es seem to be designed with logonscript in mind. thus, there is more importance knowing if normal person is a local admin than if he is domain admin. what comes to domain admin accounts, those not normally even have logonscripts. so, sure... at least documentation needs to be clearer here and better would be to change the behavior... _________________________ ! download KiXnet
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#100262 - 2003-04-09 03:08 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
mgrosschedl mgrosschedl Fresh Scripter Registered: 2003-04-08 Posts: 5	I fully agree with you, but I think it is not our decision to change it ?? Michael
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#100263 - 2003-04-09 03:20 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	Oh well, the decision is up to Ruud but we surely can influence the way KiX goes ... As said before, someone of the mods here may move this to suggestions or you can repost this as a request there (maybe a link to this topic) _________________________
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#100264 - 2003-04-09 03:24 PM Re: @PRIV in Kix 4.20
Jochen Jochen KiX Supporter Registered: 2000-03-17 Posts: 6380 Loc: Stuttgart, Germany	oh ... hehe a short search on suggestion came up with this : Local machine @priv _________________________
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