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#98236 - 2003-02-06 12:50 AM BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear members,

We have finally implement the new statistics. Statistics which have a relation with
the kixtart.org site.
Now we are using active posts instead of profile information for our reports.
Also we are going back to the beginning.

The previous statistics page has been replaced with
BB-info and BB Statistics pages.
Each page contains sub-pages.
Current structure
code:
     BB info
kixtart FAQ (summary & mirror report of 'FAQ' forum (http://kixtart.org))
kixtart UDF (summary & mirror report of 'UDF' forum (http://kixtart.org))
Scriptlogic UDF (summary & mirror report of 'UDF' forum (http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart))
BB index (complete forum index of 'http://kixtart.org' site. size about 1.2 MB)
BB specials (summary report of 'http://kixtart.org' members)
BB statistics
BB overview
BB overview details (details per month, per day, per 3-hour and per weekday. based on active posts)
BB history
BB user history
BB top25 part I (per month, no cumulation. based on active posts)
BB top25 part II (per month with cumulation per year. based on active posts)
BB top25 summary
- per year, no cumulation. based on active posts of registered membered.
- also for period 1999..2003 complete reports based on active posts of unregistered and registered members and based on profile
information.
BB mm club (details per month, per 3-hour and per weekday for all members with over 1.000 posts. based on active posts)

All feedback, questions and comment are still welcome.
greetings.

btw: updating once a month.
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#98237 - 2003-03-03 05:57 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

The statistics about February 2003 are now available.
New on the BB overview subpage is: which topics was the 1000th.
greetings.
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#98238 - 2003-03-03 08:22 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Thanks again for all the details MCA

Hope boss don't look at details too much. [Eek!]

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#98239 - 2003-03-03 08:25 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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'THEY' are tracking us anyway [Eek!] [Big Grin]

[ 03. March 2003, 20:38: Message edited by: jpols ]
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#98240 - 2003-03-03 08:45 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Thanks for the good work. [Cool]
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#98241 - 2003-03-04 02:20 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Good information!

However, I am interested in some more detail or explaination of -

http://home.wanadoo.nl/scripting/bb-user-history.htm

user information 1999..2003 (by profile information)

>> What does this mean?

Thanks,

Kent

[ 04. March 2003, 14:49: Message edited by: kdyer ]
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#98242 - 2003-03-05 10:05 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

We also hope it contains some interesting information.
On kdyer we can tell
quote:

it is based on the actual profile numbers. Each month shows how much new
numbers were issuing. F.e. 200302 7.071 155 tells us that the profile-
number 7.071 is the latest profile number of specified month.

greetings.

btw: to make this part more clear we have downgrade profilenumbers with one. also
it shows now in temrs of percentage.
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#98243 - 2003-04-01 12:02 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

Your contributions for month March has been finished.
Yet collect those information and process them.

Question: who will be second and third in our MM club based on active posts?
Answer: soon. we hope today to put everything on our site.

greetings.
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#98244 - 2003-04-10 01:02 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

The latest statistics are online.
Remarkable things:
- sealeopard gets second position on our TOP25 list. based on profile and active posts list.
also he is still the biggest poster this year.
- Sunday 30 March was very quiet. No new topics, no new posts.
- Monday and Tuesday are for the first time the most active days in a week.
- the amount of reactions is growing again (February 2003 - 3.195, March 2003 - 3.925)
- the amount of new topics has been decreased (February 2003 - 343, March 2003 - 296)
- general forum (F14) is growing very fast.
- some guys will enter the TOP100 member list.
- the biggest pictures you can find in the topics F13-423, F13-442 & F10-50
- after nearly three years Shawn isn't a member of our TOP3 list. Not a pity,
but the competition is enormous. In the beginning it was enough to post a
small amount of reactions. Now anybody must posts nearly 5000 reactions to
become such TOP3 member.

greetings.

{edit: Shawn position}

[ 10. April 2003, 04:30: Message edited by: MCA ]
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#98245 - 2003-04-12 06:38 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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mca, just found a problem with the active posts too.

once someone deletes a topic (mod or starter) that removes posts from active posts.
which is ofcourse correct as those are not active anymore.

but, the actual postcount of a person basically is something between profile count and active posts.
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#98246 - 2003-04-13 11:14 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

It isn't a problem. We are collecting new and updated topics from last month.
The information on earlier months are fixating. The active posts show the a-
mount of posts by ending a month.
We just eliminate BUMPs and mistypos.

greetings.
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#98247 - 2003-04-14 04:21 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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"Most Interesting Topics"

ABC's of KiXtart board etiquette

INFO: Moderator's message to new forum users

Guidelines for the UDF-section

??

These don't really qualify in that category do they?

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#98248 - 2003-04-14 07:09 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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like said, you also eliminate the posts that were correctly typed but removed by topic author or by mod by deleting a topic.

just couple of weeks ago one of these took place when the author was too ashamed about the question.
he just deleted the topic and thus all the replies in it.

{edit}
yet, I'm not saying that the active-topics is wrong.
it's correct as it can correct be.
although, the meaning of the count was little fuzzy.

[ 14. April 2003, 07:19: Message edited by: Lonkero ]
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#98249 - 2003-04-14 07:12 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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what comes to the interesting topics.
these topics might be qualified by the fact that they have high reader count.

or at least, we mods would like it to be so [Wink]

not sure how they ended up there but as they are good to read topics, I don't care either [Big Grin]
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#98250 - 2003-04-17 12:18 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

The most interesting topics is based on topics, which people should read
before starting using "kixtart.org" forums. It are the topics members
want to see on the main page of the "kixtart.org" site.
It will be a wrong choose, when we point to specific topics at all. Some
of you love the FAQ, COM, Kixforms stuff and others like to see a good
script of tips/trick. Our personal choose for such topic isn't interesting
at all.

Same policy to mention which mirrors are available.

Jooel, of course it was and is always the problem that someone (author or
moderator) is deleting his post. The big advances against previous method
(information based of profile information) is that the information is more
correct.
Of course it will be more correct, when we extract to complete forums each
month again. But there are some problems with it
- extraction of about 750MB cost an enormous amount of time. During that
process someone can delete posts at the same moment.
- currently we see about 5 - 10 topics per month, which are moving to an-
other forum. To solve possible problems with duplicates is much easier.
- amount of time to present the proper information will cost more time,
when f.e. only one very old post was removed. So each time our 1.000th post,
1.000th topic and 500th member lists needs a review.

Currently
- we eliminate duplicates after moving posts to another forum.
- moment of collecting information isn't important for our information. previously
it was very important, that we did this at the first hours of new month.
- we eliminate, that people trying to get a higher position with BUMPing
topics. BUMP operation shouldn't be see as real input.
- we return more details about members.

greetings.
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#98251 - 2003-04-17 01:35 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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I take exception to your statement:
quote:
- we eliminate, that people trying to get a higher position with BUMPing
topics. BUMP operation shouldn't be see as real input.

I do NOT bump topics to increase my post count and am quite certain that is NOT anyones intention whenever topics are bumped.

What's next? Will you rate the value of replies and discount those from their post count that fall below your standard?

Post count is not a good measure of our contributions. Between my ramblings, Jooel talking to himself, and Jens' RTFMs, our post counts are dubious at best. Oh, that and your propensity to dredge up years old posts that probably should be left to lay in their grave.
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#98252 - 2003-04-17 02:11 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear Les,

It wasn't pointed to any member at all. With this statement - possible we select the
wrong words - we emphasize we are counting only the active posts in specific month.

Also we will not interpretate the content of everybodies input.
Also post count isn't dubious at all. The statistics shows that this board is
very active around the clock, that is the input.
Of course we don't claim at all that our input has always the same quality.

Our goal with the statistics is to show accurate information only, but don't forget
that there is a long way to go between a topic page and our results.
greetings.
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#98253 - 2003-04-17 07:59 PM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Long day Les? [Big Grin]

MCA your stats are great but we shouldn't get too caught up in details. For me, I see post counts as an indication of participation & contibution to the board in general. Quantifying the intent or quality of these posts is pointless in my opinion. All posts contribute. [Smile]
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#98254 - 2003-05-01 12:36 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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Dear,

Your contributions for month April has been finished.
Yet collect those information and process them.

Question 1: which user with lowest postcount has relative highest ranking.
Answer: Ruud van Velsen, that great guy.

Question 2: who has highest 'bumping' counter.
Answer: soon we will return this answer.

greetings.
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#98255 - 2003-05-01 12:53 AM Re: BB-INFO: TOP25 & other statistics now available (like full index & MM Club)
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While not widely known, I also host a FAQ Mirror -

http://kentldyer.com/menu.htm

It is updated each Saturday.

Thanks,

Kent
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