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#87887 - 2002-09-17 11:18 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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I tell you Jooel - thanks goodness you wrote BBChecker ... its really given forms the olde work-out ... I mean ... running a continuously looping script for 24 hours without crashing your system has to count for something eh ? [Wink]
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#87888 - 2002-09-17 11:26 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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well, eh...

sadly it does eat the memory... before I ran it for week or two but now, after 2 days all the memory is eaten up.

what comes to script running... well, I have seen many boss'es who don't like my scripts because they are scripts but have got some scripts in production environments...

one ran continuosly 6 months without break...
script with right environment and right code is really trustable.

that is why I like kix.
getting this memory leak and fine tuning to forms makes it my #1 solution for gui.
I already use it pretty exclusively, but... little improvements would make me able to recommend it to co-workers with no trouble.
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#87889 - 2002-09-18 12:54 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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I was thinking that it would be good if you add a hyperlink variable within a label, instead of having to make the position of it every time.

Something like this:

code:
$mylink = $form.HyperLink("user@domain.com")
$mylink.Value = "mailto:user@domain.com"
$contact = $form.Label("email: $mylink",10,10,100,15)


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#87890 - 2002-09-18 01:01 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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dunno...
why should you have the "email:" text un-underlined?

as far as I can think of, the hyperlink is just a complex label.

you know:
$mylink = $form.HyperLink("email: user@domain.com",10,10,100,15)
$mylink.Value = "mailto:user@domain.com"
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#87891 - 2002-09-18 09:47 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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Yes it's like a complex label but I wanted to be able to add a link like that within a "real" label. I just thought it would be a easier way to use it.

I wanted to use this way for larger text data than a simple one line lable. Kind of the way it works in html:

code:
some text here <a href="http://">my link</a> ... more text


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#87892 - 2002-09-19 09:22 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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well, you can allways write first the text and overwrite with label the text you want to link...

anyways, lets hear what shawn has to say.
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#87893 - 2002-09-19 03:06 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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After the ListView control is released, i will be implementing a new Kixforms object called:

HtmlView (or HtmlBox)

Haven't decided on a name yet. It's a RichEdit control enhanced to implement a (very small) subset of HTML - not the whole spec - just a dozen or so tags. Thats where I was "heading" in my discussion with Rod in another thread. The HTML interface for the RichEdit "eases" the pain a little bit ...

The thing is - this would be a Viewer object (readonly) type control - you couldn't interact with it too much (like a read/write RichEdit control could do).

So like I say, after ListView - depends if we want to start on RichEdit or HtmlView ?

-Shawn

ps. HtmlView in no way relies on Internet Explorer being installed ... it will implement its own tiny HTML engine.

[ 19. September 2002, 15:08: Message edited by: Shawn ]

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#87894 - 2002-09-19 05:27 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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I realized it was something similar I was after, after reading that thread you're talking about here Shawn. I think you should go with RichEdit first, and for name I think HtmlView sounds good.
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#87895 - 2002-09-19 05:56 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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Well, we're really talking about two different objects here, both based on the RichEdit control.

Rod mentioned that he wanted a RichEdit object that can be "programmed" with funky (raw) RTF encoding. And the HTMLView object is "derived" from the RichEdit object, but adds value in that it can be programmed with a subset of HTML - the HTML engine would generate RTF codes under the covers but wouldn't expose the raw RTF interface itself.

So I guess what I'm wondering is what would be more usefull. A RichEdit object with an RTF interface or a RichEdit object with an HTML interface.

Haven't heard back from Rod in terms of what he has planned ... raw RTF encoding (imho) seems to be pretty powerfull ... was reading-up on some of the links he provided ... T think you can even encode bitmaps as RTF strings (or as Kixtart $variables) ... and have them display inside the RichEdit window ... pretty powerfull stuff.

From my perspective, the RichEdit with its simple raw interface would be the quickest and (probably) most stable object to implment next. But the HTMLView object has an appeal as well. At the end of the day - both will be there - question is - which one first.

[ 19. September 2002, 18:19: Message edited by: Shawn ]

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#87896 - 2002-09-19 07:15 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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Well I'm glad you aren't going to replace either one because I believe they could become quite useful in many ways. I really don't have any knowledge on RTF stuff so it would be a new expirence to me [Smile]
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#87897 - 2002-09-19 07:24 PM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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Yeah - I'm looking forward to playing with the RTF RichEdit control (myself) ... but to be honest - right now - I couldn't tell the difference between RTF code and Morse code ... but its sounds interesting and stimulating (and fun) which is what its really all about anyways, right ?

[ 19. September 2002, 19:26: Message edited by: Shawn ]

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#87898 - 2002-09-20 12:19 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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Sorry guys, I've been out of the loop for a day or so - I've just got back from Sweden and it's late here in the U.K. but this is all great news about RTF and HTML capable controls.

My 2 cents is that I would guess that for 90% of applications, a restricted subset of HTML tags would probably suffice for most user's text presentation needs, however RTF has big potential for taking KiXforms into a whole new realm. I suppose one key issue is how would RTF support affect the actual physical size of the library?

Rod.

[ 20. September 2002, 00:21: Message edited by: rclarke ]

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#87899 - 2002-09-20 01:05 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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Yeah - lets go with the straight RichEdit control first - then give the HtmlView control a try later. Won't add anything to the physical size - the RichEdit control is implemented in the COMCTL32.DLL (or something like that) and thats where all the RTF handling is done.

-Shawn

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#87900 - 2002-09-20 10:55 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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what comes to combobox, I've tried some events:
onkeydown
onlostfocus
onclick
...

and then:
if listindex<>listindex_before
listindex=listindex_before
endif

none of these have done anything...

all I'm trying to actually do is to disable entering anything with keyboard, you know, disable entering the text as all I want is to have it like menubox... or selectbox.

well, I have had no success whatsoever, so I need to ask, is it possible to have a dockable listbox?
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#87901 - 2002-09-20 11:50 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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As you can see from this post, there are actually three types of ComboBox available, although only one is currently supported by KiXforms. I would agree that the type 2 ComboBox would be a nice to have and I believe that Shawn plans to include it in a future release.

Rod.

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#87902 - 2002-09-20 11:55 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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heh, it was back in 2.0.3 and I thought I was already changed...
thanks for the info though. btw, are you back now?
 
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#87903 - 2002-09-21 12:23 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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I'm back, most of my European business trips are only for a day or two, unless it's the U.S. in which case, it is normally a week. You know what it is like though when you are working abroad, everyone expects you to work twice as hard as normal and any chance to catch up with the board goes right out the window [Frown]

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#87904 - 2002-09-21 12:26 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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rod, so...
any change I might come on the trips as your assistant?
 
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#87905 - 2002-09-21 12:32 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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You'd be very welcome, but it is only work when you get there. My company have sent me all over Europe, but I can honestly say I have seen nothing of those contries apart from the airport, taxis, hotels and our offices. If you are lucky, the local staff may take you out to dinner but that is about as good as it gets - it's a hard life [Wink]

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#87906 - 2002-09-21 12:38 AM Re: Kixforms 2.0.5 Released
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rod, understood.

well, I'm not afraid of work but I surely am a cowboy in my heart.
I get really bored if can't move around.
even, when I move the first month goes smoothly but then I get depressed as I have to go to the same place every night to sleep...

as long as the job is admin related (not sales or marketing) I would more than glad to scroll around the planet...
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