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#86749 - 2002-07-15 05:12 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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kent, someone is allways faster than some other one.
it's my time to be bursted.
got my positions back like I promised 2 months ago [Razz]

well, I'm going to slow down shortly, but I'll not draw back to my rates before (5-10 posts per month).

also, I had to do something when I was scared about loosing my place in top 25 as there are so many turbo posters coming behing... can't rest. [Eek!] [Eek!] [Frown] [Eek!] [Eek!]
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#86750 - 2002-07-15 07:19 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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With the non-IE5 version, what does the 1,0 stuff mean in the DOS Screen?

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#86751 - 2002-07-16 12:27 AM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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kent that's windowstate [Big Grin]

It has a bug in itself. it was also in ie ver.
hanging stuff.
trying to come over that tomorrow.
also, the ie5 ver has problems (not updating pages.
I'll incorporate both methods to same script with addition of 200 strokes. (allready all in my mind)
just have to fix this hanger still...

btw, could you have any method how to decide if window is the active one? I'm able to set it but not query...

also, will try to improve event execution although it's nothing I need to worry about in the official release (as it's components [wkix/kixforms] are superior and ...)
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#86752 - 2002-07-16 07:51 AM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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shawn...
could I have your code handy?

TNG I mean...
want to look.
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#86753 - 2002-07-16 02:09 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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Lonk,

You mean to grab the PID and set it active?

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#86754 - 2002-07-16 02:29 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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mmm....
it has no pid as it runs on top of wkix.
neither does kix'es setfocus work.

but, I got setting allready from shawn and he coded also get for me.
only problem is that there is only minimized normal maximized in that windowstate function...
I would need also not active or something similar.
this way could set it minimized when user is not keeping it on top.
this way also it does not harm user but informing is done with slider and user may look at the window when ever he wants.
the idea is just to keep it in background when it's functions are not used/viewed...

{edit}
also, if I somehow get the active window's name, I could with that know is bbchecker visible.

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#86755 - 2002-07-16 05:51 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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Could you hide the Window Title? Kinda like that in JavaScript?

Looking at this with Showin, we see the following:


This application can be found at - http://www.keir.net

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#86756 - 2002-07-16 05:59 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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window title?
and what is that good for?

I dont follow your mission with this, could you explain to a country boy????
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#86757 - 2002-07-16 06:01 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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You maybe able to use this to the advantage of keeping this "on top."

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#86758 - 2002-07-16 06:06 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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but it shouldn't be kept on top.
only when user wants it to be on top.

otherwise it should be idle on back.
also when new post arrives the main window still should remain minimized/in background.

will look at this again today later on...

anyway, will come up with new build and try to add support for ie5/winhttp5 internally switching...
not much code but easy breaking.

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#86759 - 2002-07-16 06:12 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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Does the non-IE5 version be the one for IE6, for example?

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#86760 - 2002-07-16 06:49 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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nope.
non IE5 is ie pre version 5 or other webbrowser.

basically, all that does not support the xmlhttp-object.
I even think of leaving the winhttp out for good from the installation package.

or make another package for it.

have to decide...

I get it to support wider if I include it but then the package size is much bigger and it should be somewhere closer for less download time.

mca's site is good one, but then it would need to have much usage to get there, right?
and, if lot of ppl already have downloaded it, then there is not so much need for better bandwidth, is there?

don't know.
but anyway, if I get the xml-thingie working, all it enables is faster download and faster start time after the download.
so not much.

but, what less I get dependencies and external need that's better...
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#86761 - 2002-07-16 07:20 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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Dear,

Lonkero, it can be interesting for you that the two tools you are working on
can be reached from a central location. The two tools BBchecker and
BBcodeParser.

Of course we understand that at the current state you want to have the capabi-
lity to update the entry by yourself. For us it should be a big problem. We
can link it directly to a location at your URL location. Our only restric-
tion, that the name must be the same. We don't like "file not found" situa-
tions.
The amount of users isn't for us relevant for an entry on our site. It should be
usefull for the Kixtart community.

btw: what are the filesizes with and without the "winhttp"?

Kent, we like always your URL tips. For the other user this ShoWin is freeware.
The actual site for it is http://www.foundstone.com/knowledge/free_tools.html.

greetings.
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#86762 - 2002-07-16 07:41 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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mca, for the codeparser it's the same [Big Grin]

offcourse the checker is currently in beta so it's current release can't be published anyway.

sizes of the installation package you may count of the facts:
-readme 3k
-script max 15k
-kixforms 120k
winhttp dll 284k
winhttp5.msm (legal notice acquired by microsoft) 183k
install script 2k

and then add some kilobytes to it for exe translation...

but as for just the stuff, without winhttp it's 140k and with winhttp 507k

so there is quite a difference...
mm.. not actually so big as I thought...
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#86763 - 2002-07-16 08:43 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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MCA/Lonk,

How about a package for this? [Big Grin]

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#86764 - 2002-07-16 09:14 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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you mean the thread or the smilie?
both can be done if needed...
but packaging this topic with parsing unneeded info (like as example mp3 does) it's easiest.
allways get only the first and last post...
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#86765 - 2002-07-16 09:43 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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Dear Lonkero,

Of course every programmer want to publish when the software becomes in a final release.
As package we prefer a SFX format, which makes it possible to
- an automatic installation
- view the files
Lonkero, the biggest problem with specific software for analyzing this BB can
be:
the introduction of new UBB releases.
Each upgrade had impact
- on the HTML layout
- on the syntax of URL's

In our latest POLL we got inspire in the creation of general information
about a software program.
An example for kixstrip can be
  • authors: MCA
  • current release: 3.18 for 3.63, 4.0x, 4.10
    July 10th, 2002
  • source: http://home.wanadoo.nl/scripting
  • documentation: none, see symbol on our homepage has been linked to related http://kixtart.org topic.
  • requirements user: none
  • requirements developper: it is using the keyword tables and block structures
    of different kixtart releases, which results in different releases.
  • support-level (range 1-9): 7
  • support:
    - improvements will made based on forum and mail reactions.
    - guarantee compatibility with latest kixtart release
    - guarantee backwards compatibility.
    - guarantee down/up-wards compatibility.
    - trying to return results which doesn't require additional users action before
    using it
  • restrictions in usage
    - filenames must be 8.3 format
    - destination file will automatically overwritten
  • how to get inform about new releases:
    - as a member of site we inform you about significant changes to our site.
    - see main kixtart.org topics
  • main kixtart.org topics
    http://81.17.37.55/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001943 http://81.17.37.55/board/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000642
greetings.
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#86766 - 2002-07-16 09:57 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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mm...
the ubb version thing actually is critical

that's also why I've made it pretty easy for myself to make a upgrade package.

that info thingie is not hard to make and it somewhat is the same as readme-file.

hard part is to keep the ubb-versions controlled.
not all, just the ones that are used here. that's also why I would need info from henri that he is upgrading.

the package is done with winrar as it's the easiest. that also means that it's sfx.

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#86767 - 2002-07-16 10:17 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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Lonkero,

Good idea about the SFX of RAR.
Indeed for the statistics information we are depending also very hard on the new UBB format.
Mostly to solve this critical element we are searching and looking for site, which are
already running the latest release. The Infopop can tell when an update is release.

On May, 27th, 2002 we had enter this topic on the board:

Question: Henri, when implementing new UBB 6.3.0 release?

in this topic you can also read what the possible changes will be.
Another problem with the latest release was that the new URLs format requires also for
us an upgrade of download software. The previous release of this software doesn't accept
the ";" symbols in the URLs.
Earlier we were talking about the amount of time we were needing to get all BB software
complainent with the current UBB 6.2.1 release. Only three weeks.

greetings.

btw: we bump above topic to the top.

[ 16 July 2002, 22:18: Message edited by: MCA ]
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#86768 - 2002-07-16 10:28 PM Re: bbChecker II - rc1
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i've red them before and now too.

in bbCodeparser there are only 2-4 lines which needs changing.
also in bbChecker there is just about 10 lines.
the bbcodeparser upgrade can be even without any change and probably also the checker with only 2 changes.

so for me it takes just an hour to upgrade.
the package creation takes also that much.
so, instead of three weeks, I make it 3 hours.

problem is when want to use new functionality for speed or new functions.
this makes it longer for update.
that's why there are SR's isn't it? [Big Grin]

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