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#195631 - 2009-08-27 02:15 PM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: Ruud van Velsen]
Patrick20 Offline
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Hi,

We have the same infrastructure W2K AD SP4 and I have the same Error 1789: The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed.

I've created a new W2K8 AD and did the test with same W7 station,I have the same issue again.

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#195650 - 2009-08-28 11:26 AM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: Ruud van Velsen]
bobba Offline
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Yes I've checked that. I've also setup another w7 rtm pc with the same problem. I'm probably going to log a call with MS for it. It's odd that it doesn't happen with XP or Vista machines though, I'd be interested to hear of anyone using W7 with a Windows 2000 AD and whether it's ok for them.

Thanks for the replies.

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#195659 - 2009-08-28 06:17 PM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: bobba]
Ruud van Velsen Moderator Offline
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One thing you can do is use the SysInternals utility PsGetSID (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897417.aspx). This won't solve the issue, but it takes KiXtart out of the equation.

The error happens when KiXtart tries to resolve SIDs, so I expect if you try to resolve the SID of a group on your logonserver with PsGetSID, the same error will occur.

Ruud

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#195731 - 2009-09-02 02:01 PM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: Ruud van Velsen]
bobba Offline
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Yes, same error:

Error querying account:
The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed.

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#196518 - 2009-10-29 03:33 PM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: bobba]
kaffee Offline
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Registered: 2009-10-26
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Hi,

I had same problem and tried your solutions without success

I conclued that Windows 7 32 or 64 bits has problem to view Global groups in at least W2000 AD - but can view Domain Local Groups.

check the following post.

http://www.kixtart.org/forums/ubbthreads...true#Post196516

If someone has a clue or direction it will be great.


Rgds,
Kaffee

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#196544 - 2009-11-01 12:57 PM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: kaffee]
Arend_ Moderator Offline
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I think it has more to do with the authentication of the AD. I had similar problems deploying Windows 7 from WDS. Long story short, try to set this policy on the local Windows 7 computers using gpedit.msc

'Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options\Network security: LAN Manager Authentication Level' change to 'Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated'

Then reboot, and try the ingroup again.

[edit]
I've tried this myself today at work using a Windows 7 x86 client in our Windows 2000 Domain.

Global groups fail.
Universal groups fail.
Domain Local groups succeed.
[/edit]


Edited by apronk (2009-11-02 09:42 AM)
Edit Reason: Added test results

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#196549 - 2009-11-02 12:23 PM Re: Windows 7 RC & Kix & Globabl Groups [Re: Ruud van Velsen]
Arend_ Moderator Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Ruud van Velsen
One thing you can do is use the SysInternals utility PsGetSID (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897417.aspx). This won't solve the issue, but it takes KiXtart out of the equation.

The error happens when KiXtart tries to resolve SIDs, so I expect if you try to resolve the SID of a group on your logonserver with PsGetSID, the same error will occur.

Ruud


PsGetSID gets the same errors as KiXtart.
Domain Users are resolved.
Domain Local groups are resolved.
Global groups fail.
Universal groups fail.

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