#179975 - 07/08/30 12:30 PM
Re: Welcome to Vista?
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Witto
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Loc: Belgium
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Spoiler test
Line 1 Line 2 Line 3 Line 4 Line 5 Line 6 Line 7 Line 8 Line 9 Line 10 Line 11 Line 12 Line 13 Line 14 Line 15 Line 16 Line 17 Line 18 Line 19 Line 20 ;Script Options
If Not @LOGONMODE
Break On
Else
Break Off
EndIf
Dim $RC
$RC = SetOption("Explicit", "On")
$RC = SetOption("NoMacrosInStrings", "On")
$RC = SetOption("NoVarsInStrings", "On")
If @SCRIPTEXE = "KIX32.EXE"
$RC = SetOption("WrapAtEOL", "On")
EndIf |
;Script Options
If Not @LOGONMODE
Break On
Else
Break Off
EndIf
Dim $RC
$RC = SetOption("Explicit", "On")
$RC = SetOption("NoMacrosInStrings", "On")
$RC = SetOption("NoVarsInStrings", "On")
If @SCRIPTEXE = "KIX32.EXE"
$RC = SetOption("WrapAtEOL", "On")
EndIf
Why does a spoiler need a scrollbar at the right hand side?
Whoops, off-topic. I thought I was in the "Korg now running 7.2.2" thread.
Edited by Witto (07/08/30 12:38 PM)
Edit Reason: posted in wrong thread
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#181063 - 07/10/03 05:10 AM
Re: Welcome to Vista?
[Re: Bryce]
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Glenn Barnas
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Registered: 03/01/28
Posts: 2698
Loc: New Jersey
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OK - finally bit the bullet. After hearing all kinds of horror stories, I avoided Vista like the plague. Tonight, that all changed.
Bought a new desktop with an AMD-64x2 processor. Fired it up and verified that Vista Home Pro worked before violating the warranty, ripping out the modem, adding 3G of RAM, and erasing the hard drive to load Vista-64 Enterprise. (yeah, made the recover CDs, just in case.) Anyway, I had the CD with XP-64 handy, just in case...
Installation - from boot to completion was about 30 minutes. I was surprised - almost pleasantly, considering my last load of XP took longer. I'm sure the x64 system helped.
Having never seen Vista (other than ads/demos), it took about 30 minutes to poke around before I could have it looking something like what I'd be comfortable with - no background image, and "normal" desktop icons. Another 15 minutes and I was joined to the domain and - wait?! What kind of login page is this?? Press Ctl-Alt-Del was there, but no domain field. I guess I should be used to USER@DOMAIN logins by now, but still was surprised.
Login script failed - I need to update the OS detection logic, mostly for x64. My Memory UDF just doesn't work on X64 systems, since the registry data is on 64b boundaries instead of 32b. It's one of the reasons I bought the 64b box, so my work is piling up already.
I won't start loading software until I get the login script issue resolved, and load my usual Kix and R/K network utilities. I figure that by the weekend I should have MS-Office installed, and hopefully some of the multimedia tools as well. Then the real fun of testing non-MS apps will begin.
So far, I'm not appalled, but I'm sure the hardware helps. I'll be loading Vista 32b on my old P-4 3GHz system next month. Have an updated video adapter already for that system, and it's got 2G ram, so it should be a good candidate. We'll see.
As for Server 2K8 - well.. I can't imagine digging through all this crap to change settings while people are screaming that some application is down. Thank goodness the command prompt is still here! 
Glenn
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#181148 - 07/10/05 05:04 AM
Re: Welcome to Vista?
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Glenn Barnas
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Registered: 03/01/28
Posts: 2698
Loc: New Jersey
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Will do - will likely load W2K3 on this system as well for 64B testing. Everything else here at home is on a 32B VMWare system.
Enterprise is gone after 24 hours, and Ultimate is installed instead. Didn't realize that Enterprise lacked the multimedia components. Finally found a good comparison of all the versions, although not on a MS site. MS is strangely quiet about comparing Enterprise with anything else.
I'm not sure about some of the "softer" color presentations - might just be my older eyes. Took me a while to adopt to XP, too. My biggest gripe right now is not being able to find out how to display file extensions. I don't want to rely on fuzzy icons, or Windows "intelligence" to try and think for me to decide which file I want opened. Gonna dig a bit more before I go do some research.
Enabling the local Admin account was a big help, especially when installing custom drivers and such. No interference from UAC then, but absolutely impossible do do (with obscure and misleading error messages) trying to install driver updates with either my local or domain admin accounts. My local account is in the admins group, although I'm not permitted to go into the Windows folder or add drivers? And the local admin account is disabled by default? Wassup wit dat?
G-
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#181206 - 07/10/06 03:06 PM
Re: Welcome to Vista?
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Glenn Barnas
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Registered: 03/01/28
Posts: 2698
Loc: New Jersey
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Found it...
From Explorer - Organize / Folder and Search Options
"Organize" ? ?
Was really annoying to not see the extensions. When I develop code, I have a "script.txt" file. KGen builds the "script.kix" tokenized file, but also creates .GEN (untokenized), .LOG (log of script assembly), .RPT (report of variable use by function), and .INI (table of variable declarations, line refs, etc). Since all of these extensions are opened with Notepad, they all had the same icon and the same name. You need to hover your mouse over the file to have the properties window pop up to see the extension. NOT ANY MORE!
Jeez - once you find the entry point to the config panel, the panel and settings are identical to all previous versions. Is "new" limited to moving the doors and windows around? 
Glenn
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#181339 - 07/10/09 12:59 AM
Re: Welcome to Vista?
[Re: Glenn Barnas]
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Glenn Barnas
KiX Supporter
Registered: 03/01/28
Posts: 2698
Loc: New Jersey
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OK - time for the "WTF" ???
64-bit version of the O/S. Kix is 32-bit. Answer is WOW6432. Everything's fine, until...
You READ THE F!#($!@#ing Registry!
"Access to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion is ''reflected'' to HKLM\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion. A registry reflector copies certain values from the 64b to the 32b hives, resolving any conflicts with a Last Writer Wins approach."
Well, try to read simple values, like InstallDate or RegisteredOwner! These values are not "reflected". The InstallDate is 0, and RegisteredOwner is Microsoft! Maybe I need to install "Microsoft Mirror" for the reflections to occur?
OK - so this only affects things like 32b system inventory type tools, and only talking to 64b sysetms. Well, even the 32b system has some inconsistencies.
Query "ProductName" -
32b replies "Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate"
64b replies "Windows (TM) Vista Ultimate"
So, what's trademarked - Windows or Vista?
Aside from one change due to the migration to 64b technology (my Memory UDF), I've had to adjust, adapt, or rewrite at least half a dozen UDFs that use the registry to decide what kind of system it's running on. The problem I have is that it's inconsistent not only between XP to Vista, but between the same (Ultimate) version of Vista on x86 and x64.
OK - enough rant for today. Anyone got a solution? When is Kix64 coming out?
Glenn
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But i still run XP every day, in a VM on my new laptop.
