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#132208 - 2005-01-11 08:42 PM Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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Please provide your input here to the topic Current Suggestions / Requests in the Suggestions forum.

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Since this covers a wide range of topics, please respect the threaded view and be careful to reply in the right thread.


Edited by Les (2005-01-11 10:01 PM)
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#132209 - 2005-01-11 09:08 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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    # @function to determine OU of user and/or workstation
    With the movement to AD, AD support that is native to Kix is a must. and one of the corner stones that Kix was built on.

    # Binmode file access
    this would be nice to have, added function.

    # bitwise negation operator
    this would be nice to have, added function.

    # Case Sensitive setoption('OptionExplicit','ON')
    this makes sence, and fits along with the current kix options

    # Case-Sensitive Sendkeys() or Keystate()
    this makes sence, and fits along with the current kix options

    # Comment Block similar to C
    do we really need this?

    # MakeEXE for KiX 4.5
    other methods exist.. so this depends on how it is implemented.

    # More support for math $iNewValue=BaseConvert($iOldValue,CurrentBase,RequiredBase, Optional WordSize)
    i like this. but is there enought demand to add this native, vs current UDF's

    # Mouse movements
    other mothods exist for this.

    # Native Terminate function
    other methods exist for this.

    # On Error handler
    handle those crashes... i like.. but can make for slopy code

    # RD /c /h /f /s /s subdirs /f also readonly /h also hidden and system /c continue on errors
    do we need this...?

    # SKIX32.EXE KiXtart as a Service
    would be nice.... but not so sure how much it would be used.

    # Socket Support
    yes, i would like to see socket support.. either vix kix native, or through shawns kixforms...

    # XML Support
    not so sure if we need this native, other methods exist.

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#132210 - 2005-01-11 09:41 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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to the xml:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/xmlsdk/html/oriXMLStandards.asp

it's a web standard as much as html.
it's text that has some tags in it.

XML is not limited enough to be seriously considered as anything inbuild.

I personally would remove it from suggestions list but maybe will wait for no from Ruud.
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#132211 - 2005-01-11 09:54 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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on error handler...

I would not like to see it as onError resume next handler but only as crash handler.

that means, when there is a condition that makes kixtart crash, do something.
on the other hand, for this to work properly, it would need to know unknown bugs and do something when met.

one way could be some drwatson wake up call thingie.
some handler thingie that is not dependant of the kix process that runs the script.

and the normal die errors could have option for rediction just like anything placed on the console.
redirectErrors() would redirect errormessages instead of showing them to user.

so, no.
onError, I can't see it needed.
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#132212 - 2005-01-11 09:56 PM Re: Case Sensitive setoption('OptionExplicit','ON')
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# Case Sensitive setoption('OptionExplicit','ON')

Not sure I understand what the objective is here. There is already a SetOption() for CaseSensitivity.
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By default, all string comparisons are case-insensitive. Setting the CaseSensitivity option to ON instructs KiXtart to make all subsequent string comparisons case-sensitive.




Which is pretty much the same as:
If $Var == 'CaseSensitive'
...or is it about making varnames themself case sensitive?
$Var = 'CaseSensitive'
$var = 'casesensitive'
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#132213 - 2005-01-11 10:03 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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Quote:

More support for math $iNewValue=BaseConvert($iOldValue,CurrentBase,RequiredBase, Optional WordSize)




now, I might wanna see some extended math support.
SIN and COS for sure.
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#132214 - 2005-01-11 10:21 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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so, if we (i) have more suggestions, were do we (i) post it ? here ?
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#132215 - 2005-01-11 10:38 PM Re: Case Sensitive setoption('OptionExplicit','ON')
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ja, that's the point.
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#132216 - 2005-01-11 10:38 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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Yes, Jooel beat me to it.

I'd remove this post, but board would still leave the post and say it was deleted

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#132217 - 2005-01-11 10:54 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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doc, answered to les.

shawn, no.
I think suggestions forum is for suggestions.
this thread for discussing the suggestion in the suggestions thread.
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#132218 - 2005-01-11 11:18 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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Shawn,
New suggestions should always be posted to the suggestions forum. The only reason I sequestered this topic is because it has too many suggestions that would most likely generate a lot of varied responses. Individual suggestions can be debated in the suggestions forum.

The suggestions summary itself that DOC posted can be discussed here and DOC will update the summary based on feedback here.
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#132219 - 2005-01-11 11:22 PM Re: Case Sensitive setoption('OptionExplicit','ON')
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K, so who is messing up the threads?

Shawn, is your Q related to Case Sensitive setoption?

Jooel, is your reply to my point or Shawn's? ..and just what is the point?
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#132220 - 2005-01-11 11:27 PM Re: Case Sensitive setoption('OptionExplicit','ON')
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Les, no. I want to submit the following suggestion into the list, been suggested before and its supported by VB and VBS, thought it would be nice in Kix as well.

To be able to DIM and ASSIGN a variable in one statement, like this:

Dim $Value = 100

-Shawn

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#132221 - 2005-01-12 04:51 PM Re: XML Support
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I am very much in favor of XML support built-in. "It can be handled in other ways" is not a valid argument. If it were, then Ruud should drop support for drive mapping, ini file manipulation, and pretty much everything else that KiXtart does since they can also be done in other ways.

Also, I think most people's take on XML is a little skewed toward trivial examples. If I want to get the text for a certain node, it's not always as simple as string parsing the tag name. Again, I don't think we need full XMLDOM coverage, but some rudimentary XML parsing commands would be quite valuable in enhancing the power of native KiXtart.
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#132222 - 2005-01-12 04:54 PM Re: XML Support
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I want html parser then too.
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#132223 - 2005-01-12 05:01 PM Binary data support
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To be able to make use of binary file i/o, sockets and many COM automation objects KiXtart needs to be able to manipulate binary data.

Support for the "byte" data type (and "byte arrays") would probably be sufficient, although converting to and from existing types would help a lot.

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#132224 - 2005-01-12 05:06 PM Variable pass by reference
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The ability to pass a variable by reference, so that the original variable can be manipulated directly in a UDF rather than a copy.
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#132225 - 2005-01-12 05:10 PM Static variable definition
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Support for static variables.

Static variables are local to a scope, but unlike DIMmed variables they are not destroyed when the scope is exited.

For example, this allows information in a UDF to be preserved.

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#132226 - 2005-01-12 06:02 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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The abilty to support [out] variables in COM objects, variables that are created by the COM object itself, and passed "out" of the method call. This would be usefull for some devious sneaky WMI calls. I think these [out] variables are subtely different that your std byref type.
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#132227 - 2005-01-12 09:09 PM Re: Current Suggestions / Requests discussions
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The Suggestions post has been updated.

If you see any requests that are currently already built-in to KiXtart 4.23 please let me know and I'll remove the request. Some of these are from 2001 and may already be supported internally by KiXtart 4.23

Current Suggestions / Requests
http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=131388

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