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#131484 - 2004-12-16 10:15 PM Socket Support
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This information taken from the Jython project.

I realize that this would probably be overkill and add too much size to the executable, but perhaps addition of at least some type of minor support of sockets could be added.

This is in regards to this recent thread.
http://www.kixtart.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=130429

Here are some of the goals of the Jython project just to give a better understanding of the request. Not that KiX would or should attempt to reach the same goals.

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Thread-safe. The developed software must be thread-safe, i.e. as far as is possible, accessing objects (created through the software) from multiple threads simultaneously must result in predictable behaviour and no corruption of data.
Non-blocking TCP socket support. The developed software should support nonblocking access to both client and server TCP sockets. This applies to all operations, including opening and closing connections to socket endpoints, reading and writing data, and detection of out-of-band data.
Non-blocking UDP socket support. Ideally, non-blocking operations should be supported on UDP/datagram sockets







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#131485 - 2004-12-16 10:18 PM Re: Socket Support
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good to see, after some years finally someone else likes the idea too.
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#131486 - 2004-12-16 10:22 PM Re: Socket Support
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weird.
looking at the search, seems that we never ever even suggested this even though it has been lot discussed before.
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#131487 - 2004-12-18 01:15 AM Re: Socket Support
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We already have Sockets-support via KiXforms. I think that sockets are so specialized that they rather not be included in the general KiXtart executable.
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#131488 - 2004-12-18 01:21 AM Re: Socket Support
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Well, just a suggestion. Will wait to see if Ruud considers it or not.

KF is not always an options for many things either.

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#131489 - 2004-12-18 12:08 PM Re: Socket Support
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and we don't have sockets in the sense that in kixforms they are only on testing level and can't be relied on.

and, having sockets in kix would reduce the need for additional dll's to take care of the trivial tasks that should be built-in.
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#131490 - 2004-12-18 05:10 PM Re: Socket Support
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I suspect Jens is right, that the target audience is too small. Those that want/need can go with DLL add-ons and if KF is too beta, there is another DLL add-on at http://tech.dimac.net/ that was discussed on kforg...
http://www.kixforms.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=746
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#131491 - 2004-12-18 05:19 PM Re: Socket Support
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I just wonder.
what is the audience of "color" use?
or "box"?
or ...

everyone is networked nowadays and thus everyone should have tools to use their network.
that makes every damn user of kixtart target audience.
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#131492 - 2004-12-18 05:31 PM Re: Socket Support
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That is a lame arguement... color and box are legacy commands. You know very well how hard it is to drop legacy support! I still see lots of scripts posted here that use them and other ugly console output. Not everyone uses WKiX like you do.
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#131493 - 2004-12-18 06:14 PM Re: Socket Support
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now, if we want to keep legacy support, we do.
we still have kix 2.xx download in download area.
go ahead and get your legacy stuff and go ahead use your DOS 4

but there are some ppl that like to use windows and are willing to take kixtart to windows world.
it is really hard if all that kix is willing is hold on to the past.
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