Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-13 03:45 AM
why are all the regulars hanging...

...out here with nothing to do?

Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-13 03:49 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

What ever do you mean?

Jack Lothian
(MM club member)
2002-06-13 03:55 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Isn't this normal behavior? I seem to see hese guys every time I visit the forum. I swear some of you guys eat while loged on.

Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-13 03:56 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Just seems awful slow for all the high power names I see at the site. We need a little actions. Oh, my god I'm still thinking about Golf.

Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-13 03:57 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

We're waiting for the polling station to close to see the voting outcome.

Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-13 04:08 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

OK! The results are in. Congratulations to our new moderators!

MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 04:53 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Dear,

Possible that some people are not logging off from kixtart.org board.
Normally it happens only for people with a fix line.
greetings.

[ 16 June 2002, 07:40: Message edited by: MCA ]


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 04:54 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Like me. [Big Grin]

Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 05:12 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

...or me on my measly 26.4 dial-up [Frown]

Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 05:14 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

How do you survive or should I say post so much at that speed? [Wink]

Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 05:23 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

It's really holding me back! [Big Grin]

ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 05:28 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

We need a mascot for this board ... you know ... like a catchy, cartoon mascot ...

ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:12 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

How about this:



ok, im been coding all night, and im tired ...


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2002-06-16 06:32 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

I've been trying to get new smc ethernet adapter installed...
whole nigth!

it's installation software does not work and system does not support it as it's too new...
got my machine somehow mixed up and probably will need reinstallation...


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:55 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Lonkero, do you ever sleep while the sun isn't shining?

MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 07:45 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Dear Howard,

Lonkero lives in Finland and now his days are very long, but a better question "why isn't he
going to the lakes".
greetings.

btw: Shawn great mascot, but a pity Henri is on vacation.

btw: Les doesn't you have something like ADSL? With a too slow speed we are using additio-
nal tools to speed-up our connection.

[ 16 June 2002, 07:48: Message edited by: MCA ]


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2002-06-16 02:22 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

hoby, sometimes yes.
today went to sleep after sun rise up.
it's the freedom of the worker which makes me wanna do this.
last year did this kind of sleep policy while I was working but my boss didn't like that I came to work at 2pm or when I came early I was like zombie cause of the little sleep.

have you heard about these professors who say that one night without sleep equals to 1 promille of alcohol in your blood.


Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 05:56 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

MCA,
You can bet I looked into DSL. Maybe when pigs can fly... TelCo does not offer DSL in the area. I put in private DSL in to my LAN. I run back-to-back SDSL modems in town but cannot get LDDS circuit to me in the country. Too far from CO.

There may be 802.11 in the future (ISP) but not today. If it became available, I'd have to put up a 75 foot tower to get above the trees. I am looking into putting in my own private wireless to my LAN but still have the tower issue.

Other possibilty is public satellite but that is asymmetric relying still on 26.4 modem for uplink with expensive LD charges.


Radimus
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:09 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

cable for me baby.... [Big Grin]

I'm thinking about wireless so I can remote into my desktop with my iPaq when taking the family to the community pool [Smile]

I like the kangaroo, at least it isn't a penguin... But since Ruud and Henri are Nordic, perhaps a Viking type theme would be appropriate... [Big Grin]


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:09 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Almost done with the HoneyDo list. Just some grass trimming to do and then back to KiXtart and beer. [Big Grin]

Shawn, if you can put it on a public board, what have you been building with all the code you have been writing?

Les, sounds like you live in a great place. It is a shame that the Telcos don't appreciate it as much as you.


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2002-06-16 06:25 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

les, why don't you use GPRS?
In here it's only 19$ per month without any plus fees...
it's faster than your current speed and you don't have to sit at the desk all the time.

I was thinking of buying this new nokia card which support gsm (900/1800), GPRS and WLAN.
it still costs 430$ but then don't need multiple cards to get to net.


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:28 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Les,

I'm porting LOGINSCREEN.EXE over to C++ (removing the VB runs (heheh)) and enhancing it a whole bunch. Its going to be an ActiveX Server (.exe) as opposed to a .DLL - ActiveX servers have a whole bunch of nice features, expecially for login scripts - they are MUTLI-THREADED, which means that one can script lengthy operations (eg, installs) and the GUI will remain fresh and alive (responsive). Its coming along very nicely, and will be posting the prototype sometime soon. Thanks for asking [Wink]

-Shawn

{EDIT}

Oh yeah, and I have to cut the lawn ...

[ 16 June 2002, 18:29: Message edited by: Shawn ]


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:41 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Shawn, I answer to a lot of different names, but If I start answing to Les, Things could get a little confusing around here.

[ 16 June 2002, 19:06: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 06:44 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

oops, sorry Richard [Wink]

Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 06:47 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Jooel,
Once again... relies on those damn TelCos. We have only analogue (1G). No GSM or GPRS around here.
Hey, compared to my former home, it's not so bad. I moved to here from Murillo. There I had a party line. No modems allowed at all. For anyone not familiar with a party line, no it's not one of those sex phone chat thingies. It's one pair of wires strung out for miles in the country and you share it with your neighbors. It uses distictive ring. You listen for your ring sequence to know if it's for you.

If I want speed, I go in to the office. My WAN link is a half T1. If it weren't for QOS I'd saturate it easy. It took me all night just to download RedHat 7.1 (just under a gig).


Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 06:51 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

My problem is I can't get anyone to answer to Les. Not even my dog... [Frown]

Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 07:12 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Being on this board is just as bad as being on a Cub Scout outing and having one of the little ones yell "Dad".

{edit} I am not sure if I should respond or not.

[ 16 June 2002, 19:14: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-16 07:44 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Kixie, Kixaroo, Kixie - the kix-boxing Kangaroo ... hmmm ...

NTDOCAdministrator
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 08:59 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Being a Moderator now, and seeing no code here.... Leads me to think that we need to add another forum for just this type of bantering.

What does everyone think of adding a new forum for General Discussion ?

ps. Shawn, I like your little character. He looks cute. [Cool]


Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-16 09:44 PM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Eh guys... I think we just got our collective hands slapped.
DOC... right you are... no code here... but Howard started it. [Razz]

Figured once this thread was started... what the hey...

Not as bad as Kent's thread we hijaaked.
Topic: Comments in an INI file

Figure the Starters forum would suffice.


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 01:05 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Dear Shawn,

You have see a ghost.

You have find another kangaroo.

which doesn't looks like

You become drunk

You have a idea

You need a cup of coffee

Someone is listening to you

and

after a good night sleep you find the real kixtart world back.

greetings.

tip: for other smileys see http://www.smiley-faces.com.
NTDOC, we put some forum code on the board.


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 01:11 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Dear,

Hey - thats pretty neat - thanks, I do have a cup of coffee now - and I do feel better, thanks ... I'm still strying to figure-out that formula you posted in the other thread ... [Cool]


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 01:14 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Dear Shawn,

The second part is much simpler to implement.
On the first one not only you are influencing the delay, but also the guys who loves you very much.
greetings.

[ 17 June 2002, 01:16: Message edited by: MCA ]


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 01:37 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

That was sneaky Hoby, I saw how you did that ...

Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 01:40 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

You're not suppose to catch that stuff. It was only there for a second. How did you catch it?

[ 17 June 2002, 01:40: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 01:46 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

It got caught in my cache.

ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 02:38 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Ok, quick question, tell me the first thing that pops into your mind. To create a new label on a form, what syntax would be the most intuitive and natural, don't think too long:

$message = $loginbox.addlabel(10,80,380,20,"Status")

OR:

$message = $loginbox.label(10,80,380,20,"Status")

[ 17 June 2002, 02:38: Message edited by: Shawn ]


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 02:57 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

What can a weekend be hard for some guys.
greetings.


Les
(KiX Master)
2002-06-17 03:25 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Shawn,
Well... that depends on whether you do other 'label' things. If nothing else, then the shorter form.


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 03:38 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

$message = $loginbox.addlabel(10,80,380,20,"Status")

Is there only one label/$LoginBox? If so, then you don't need "add". If there is then you need:

$Label1 = $loginbox.addlabel(10,80,380,20,"Status")

Otherwise you only need:
$loginbox.label(10,80,380,20,"Status")

[ 17 June 2002, 04:02: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 04:11 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Sorry, yeah, guess I should explain. What would be more more intuitive, natural method name to create a NEW label on a FORM:

$Label1 = $Form.AddLabel(...)

$Label1 = $Form.Label(...)

I just always figured that the syntax of the second form, sorta always implied an object creation, just wanted to see if anyone else thought the same, or whether the first form was more intuitive ...

$Form is an instance of a form.

[ 17 June 2002, 04:13: Message edited by: Shawn ]


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 04:30 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

In that case I like the AddLabel Method.

[ 17 June 2002, 04:31: Message edited by: Howard Bullock ]


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 05:02 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

You the man ... hows this looking for easy-on-the-eye ?

Break On

$LoginBox = CreateObject("Kixtart.LoginBox")

$LoginBox.Caption = "Installing Applications"
$LoginBox.MinButton = 0
$LoginBox.MaxButton = 0
$LoginBox.SysMenu = 0
$LoginBox.Width = 400
$LoginBox.Height = 200

$Status = $LoginBox.AddLabel(320,10,70,20,"[12 of 15]")
$Display = $LoginBox.AddLabel(10,35,380,60,"Message")
$Message = $LoginBox.AddLabel(10,80,380,20,"Status")
$PBar = $LoginBox.AddProgressBar(10,120,370,30,"")

$LoginBox.Center
$LoginBox.Show

For $i = 1 To 100 Step 2
 $PBar.Value = $i
 Sleep (0.2)
Next

Exit 1


Does it read ok ?

[ 17 June 2002, 06:05: Message edited by: Shawn ]


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 05:58 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

I'm a little confused by
$Display = $LoginBox.AddLabel(10,35,380,60,"Message")
$Message = $LoginBox.AddLabel(10,80,380,20,"Status")


ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 06:14 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

No worries, thats just me being a dough-head, just putting in misc. messages ... format of the AddLabel method is:

$Label = $Form.AddLabel(Left,Top,Width,Height,Caption)

so, they are just strings that get plugged into the GUI ... The AddLabel() method seems to make sense ... thanks for the help.

While I was porting LOGINSCREEN.EXE, I came to the realization that even though I liked that control alot, it was VERY crude in terms of being able to customize it. It only had about 4 or 5 BUILTIN controls, a couple of labels, a progressbar and a Bitmap ... so I just borrowed the control creation from Kixforms.

So right now, I got support for the LoginBox (form), the Label and the ProgressBar. Just those three controls alone are enough to build some impressive progress dialog boxes ...


Howard Bullock
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 06:37 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Your intriguing me. I am going to have to take a look at some of these tolls such as KixForms...

ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 06:46 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Well, if you want to hang on for a few minutes, you can be the first to give KixBox a try (or KixBoxer ? or LoginBox, haven't decided on a name yet) ...

ShawnAdministrator
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 07:13 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Howard ? Just a reminder, this is alpha software, so go easy ... would love to get any and all feedback you may have ... nothing here is carved in stone, so have at it ...

Download KixBoxer here:

KixBoxer

Copy it to any directory, go there and type:

kixboxer -install

Then run the following script, it only runs a few seconds, but let it finish normally:

Break On

$LoginBox = CreateObject("Kixtart.LoginBox")

$LoginBox.Caption = "Installing Applications"
$LoginBox.MinButton = 0
$LoginBox.MaxButton = 0
$LoginBox.SysMenu = 0
$LoginBox.Width = 400
$LoginBox.Height = 150

$Message = $LoginBox.AddLabel(10,20,380,20,"")
$Message.FontSize = 10
$Message.FontBold = 1

$ProgressBar = $LoginBox.AddProgressBar(10,50,370,30,"")

$Status = $LoginBox.AddLabel(320,90,70,20,"")
$Status.FontBold = 1

$LoginBox.Center
$LoginBox.Show

$Installs =
"Installing Office,",
"Installing Office Service Pack 1...",
"Installing McAfee Anti-Virus...",
"Installing McAfee Service Pack ...",
"Installing Host Explorer ..."

$Count = UBound($Installs)

For $i = 1.0 To UBound($Installs)
 $Status.Text = "[$i or $Count]"
 $Message.Text = $Installs[$i]
 $ProgressBar.Value = (((0.0+$i)/$Count)*100)
 Sleep (2)
Next

$LoginBox = 0

Exit 1


KixBoxer is an ActiveX Server (.exe) not an DLL - if you pause the script (with a sleep), and even if you drag another window over the GUI, it will remain fresh and alive ... Kixforms and any other DLL GUI would fall over dead if you did that ...

-Shawn

[ 17 June 2002, 07:22: Message edited by: Shawn ]


MCA
(KiX Supporter)
2002-06-17 07:45 AM
Re: why are all the regulars hanging...

Shawn,

Not implemented our formula script yet? It should be
dark now outside.
greetings.