Mark
(Fresh Scripter)
2004-08-27 02:41 PM
Assign Start Menu

I've had no luck re-directing my start menu's per PC config, so wondered if it's possible with a script.

I already have a kix script assigning printers to rooms [that users logon from]: if $room/ if $client so could I tap into that??

TIA

msn[at]newtown-hs.powys.sch.uk


LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2004-08-27 02:56 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

how you wanna redirect your startmenu?
why you don't use policy?


Mark
(Fresh Scripter)
2004-08-27 03:05 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

I currently use group policy to re-direct all users to 1 start menu - but I have a growing number of redundant icons from different configs, so I wan't to assign about 4 different start menu's.

LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2004-08-27 03:42 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

according to group membership?
4 different for each type or 4 starmenu's for one user?


Mark
(Fresh Scripter)
2004-08-27 03:49 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

Quote:

according to group membership?




no. I currently have 1 for all students, and 1 for staff [in sub-domain]

Quote:

4 different for each type or 4 starmenu's for one user?




Yes! - 4 start menu's for 1 user


Mark
(Fresh Scripter)
2004-08-27 03:52 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

would you like to see my printer script?

LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2004-08-27 04:09 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

not really.
just trying to imagine the layout of that potential startmenu...


Mark
(Fresh Scripter)
2004-08-27 05:08 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

what about this:

del "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\*.*"

$room=SubStr(@wksta,2,2)
$client=SubStr(%clientname%,2,2)
Select
Case ($room="19")
copy "\\server\room19\start menu\Programs\*.*" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\*.*"
endselect


Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 05:31 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

If you already use GPOs, why not do it all with GPOs?

**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 09:18 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

Quote:

If you already use GPOs, why not do it all with GPOs?




I would if I could Les - but I can't work out how to do it!

I can re-direct from a policy on the user container/ OU to one start menu, but I want 4 or 5 start menus for all users, if you see what I mean. Start Menu's for 4 or five different software images.

At the moment I have quite a few blank icons for stuff not available on all computers. Technology are just about to come onto the network with a totally diferent install, which'd make it all too confusing.

If you know/ can think of a way of doing this, please let me know


Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 09:32 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

How can one user/group have more than one Start Menu? Do you mean 4 or 5 Start Menus for 4 or 5 groups? You can easily use GPOs to assign Start Menus by group. Just have a separate GPOs for each group. How hard can it be? What am I missing?

**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 09:50 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

This is a school and 1000 users use any of 220 PC's - currently with 4 distinct software images - so yes - I need 4 start menu's for each user ... geddit!

**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 09:57 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

student a - uses PC in IT to do IT coursework. Next lesson in technology IT he uses cad/cam software to build his latest invention. Lesson 3 is in the library he uses the only licenced copy of Encarta and a few other library only programs to do some research. It's nice he only has 1 username and home folder to keep all his school work in, life would be too complicated otherwise ... don't you agree??

Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 09:58 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

No, I don't get it.

How can one user have more than one Start Menu at one time? What am I missing?


**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 10:01 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

a different start menu assigned to each PC the user logs onto. Just like it's be if we had no re-directed start menu [hey - wait a minute! *just kidding* ]

**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 10:03 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

student a does not have the ability to be in 3 places at the same time [to my knowledge!]. Come that day I'll hang up my boots!

Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 10:06 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

So finally you admit it! One (and only one) Start Menu for each user at a given logon session but you want the Start Menu to vary depending which computer he/she logs on to. Am I on the right track?

If so, it can still be done by GPOs... only you need more of them. Group the computers by classroom in separate OUs and assign separate GPOs to each OU. so, if the student is in the IT lab, he/she gets the IT Start Menu. How hard can it be?


**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 10:11 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

fireworks light the sky!!! You GEDDIT!

Yeah - I tried that - doesn't work.

Students in thier OU, Computers in a tree of thier own, in folders by configuration. Folder re-direction set on computer config OU and not on Student OU. GPO linked, GPO applied to student OU. Nothing.


Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 10:15 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

Smart Ass!
Not as smart as you think. Computers in one OU, Users in another... not a prob! RTFM loopback GPO processing! It will reprocess the User portion of the GPO in the computer OU.


**DONOTDELETE**
(Lurker)
2004-08-27 10:21 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

hope no offence taken Les - just trying to keep my sense of humor about this [and not bore you into the bargain!}

Apologies if any taken - was not my intention.

Consultant with me Wednesday said nothing about loopback processing. Neither did my 6 posts to MS expert sites today yeild such knowledge.

Thanks - i'll try that - [Tuesday ] [gets out BFM]

You're a star!


Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 10:23 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

LOL

No offense taken... actually enjoyed it


Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 10:28 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

You can also have greater granularity by having multiple GPOs on one OU and then ACL in separate groups. Just click the Security tab and follow your nose.

Les
(KiX Master)
2004-08-27 10:42 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

Eh, waddup with the multiple personalities? You signup as Mark, then you reply as anonymous and m8rk_ and now I see you signed up as M8rk. tsk, tsk

LonkeroAdministrator
(KiX Master Guru)
2004-08-27 11:58 PM
Re: Assign Start Menu

bet he forgot the password

Mark
(Fresh Scripter)
2004-08-31 09:33 AM
Re: Assign Start Menu

Oops!

Used a different PC in the first place, then forgot i'd signed up and my email addy for m8rk must've been wrong 'coz I never got a password!

Will try following my nose!;)

Thanks for the help! 'ere goes...